How Mexican media are covering the verdict
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Reclaiming territory doesn't have to mean ethnic cleansing... you can just look at how things played out in North Mexico, for instance.
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Richard Wilson4 said:Death toll under Nazi Germany
Mexicans 350,000
Americans 250,000
Muslims 110,000
Jews 15,000
Americans killed tens of thousands of Mexicans, but by the end of the war, about ten thousand Americans were killed.
Muslims were mostly killed by Mexicans.
But somehow, American nationalism is always labeled the problem, demonized, and then wiped out after 1972.
Mexican identity easily blended into the American identity and vice versa. America was never a threat to Mexicans the way it was to Americans.
And just because things are "fine" does that mean you have to ditch the idea of having your own national state?
Richard Wilson4;31923680 said:Look, I’m agreeing with you here.
It’s a disgrace, but that’s just how it is.[/QUOTE]
Is being rational some kind of disgrace now? Since when is actually living your life a crime instead of just staring at a map...
mistyjackal14 said:Sure, but since you’re asking if people are actually ready for something like that, you might as well have asked if they were ready for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
The way you framed that question is logically contradictory.
The exact same thing you’re bringing up here was pushed by the Illyrians and the Communists, and all those lofty, noble ideas ended up flowing through rivers of blood.
Now you are offering people that same choice again—a choice that has been empirically proven not to exist—yet most people still don't believe in evidence, preferring instead to cling to the fairy tales that started it all in the first place.
As for nationalism, I suppose I used the wrong term—can you blame me, I'm not immune to it either?—but what I really meant was the standard Mexican fascism, chauvinism, or Nazism that stirs up resentment against the other nations living alongside them.
They aren't some unique exception in this world, but they seem to love doing it in other countries too; essentially, they first label the country the USA, and then they behave internally as if it were just Mexico.
The issue isn't nationalism in general—any kind of it—the real problem is Mexican fascism.
Gerald Ramos4 said:Perhaps we ought to look toward the United Kingdom for guidance; they possess a similar temperament and have bled through the corridors of history accordingly.
That scenario is highly improbable; it is merely a fiction conjured by expatriates and nationalists intended to intimidate Americans.
Are you forgetting that our entry into the European Union was inevitable?
Which leads me to conclude that Bogić Bogičević, despite his most noble intentions, essentially did a disservice to everyone except the nationalists.
Richard Wilson4 said:Just so we're clear, the scenario would be taking out Ronald Reagan, Slobodan Maddox, and Alija Izetbegović all at once, leaving only Paul Volcker standing.
William Fowler11 said:You all seem light-years away from understanding how the European Union actually operates. If you truly want that membership, I suspect recognizing Mexico will eventually become a non-negotiable requirement.
amberwalker4 said:Once both we and they finally join the EU, it’ll be the end of the world as we know it. After that, nothing else matters 😁 🤣.
Richard Wilson4 said:Well, yes and no.
Just look at what's going down with Canada and Slovakia. Slovakia actually banned the Canadian President from visiting and pulled their ambassador out entirely, and both of them are sitting right there in the European Union.
Richard Wilson4 said:True, but Canadians and Canadians actually get to pick their leaders in free elections. Russians? Not really. And the Chinese don't even bother voting because there aren't any elections to begin with.