Laura Hayes74 said:I'll try to keep this brief,
I can say for certain that I'm staring down a brutal, long, and totally unpredictable stretch of surgeries, setbacks, and constant pain, all just for the POTENTIAL chance to get back to some semblance of a normal life—which honestly doesn't even feel like much of a win when you consider I'll likely be a burden on everyone else for a long time with a really uncertain future ahead of me.
Right now, I can get through my days without too much trouble, but that won't last forever, especially if I go through with these operations. What I'm seriously weighing is whether it makes more sense to just take the time and the opportunity I have right now to live out this one (shorter) chapter as best as I can, and then... when the time comes... just handle things on my own terms and end it.
Death doesn't scare me, and religion isn't something that weighs on my mind either. The only thing that actually worries me is the idea that my choice might hurt my family, and I've spent a lot of time chewing on that. To be honest, I think they have an outdated and pretty flawed way of looking at death, and at the end of the day, it really just comes down to a balancing act between pleasing myself or pleasing them. Personally, I just don't see the point in enduring all that misery... I'd much rather make the most of the time I have left and leave on my own terms, in peace...
It wouldn't be right for me to come here and ask for specific advice on how to end my life, but if anyone has some actual wisdom to share or advice to give, I'm all ears. Would you guys support someone making this call if they were facing what I'm facing? How would you handle it? I mean, what the heck, what would you even do or where would you go if you knew your life was going to be over a year from today?
PS. Don't go trying to send me to a shrink, I'm pretty level-headed :)
PPS. The specifics of my illness don't matter for this, I already know everything I need to know, so please don't even go there.
I think your line of thinking is completely misguided. I don't understand people who would end things because of upcoming suffering or illness that hasn't even arrived yet; that illness will eventually claim you regardless. Death is inevitable, and any sane person wants to live. To me, suicide or an efficient euthanasia process seems acceptable only if a person is in the final stages of cancer, just to spare themselves and their loved ones the constant agony and prolonged struggle.
If I thought my life was coming to an end, I would research the illness and treatment options as much as possible, prepare myself for the fight, study how others handled it, and be ready for a total internal transformation and a complete change in lifestyle. I wouldn't change everything just to fight the disease, but to actually *live*... and I'd try to find joy by doing constructive things I never had the courage or will to do before.
A few years ago, I met a man who took his own life because he ended up in a wheelchair; he drove his wheelchair into the ocean while intoxicated. It’s interesting that before his accident, he lived quite recklessly, causing trouble for everyone at home and always driving fast cars.
His inability to stop being SELF-INDULGENT (living by the philosophy of "everything must always be easy and comfortable for me") was probably the peak of his suffering. On the other hand, you have people who accept their illness as an opportunity for personal growth, learning, and ultimate change.
The ones I love most are those who play basketball in wheelchairs and find joy in the game like children.😁
Ultimately, it all depends on what you define as SUFFERING.
Personally, if I could give every shallow and impulsive person the chance to face a serious illness with an uncertain outcome, I would, just so they could learn the true values of life.
Laura Hayes74 said:Thanks for all the input, everyone.
To those of you saying you’d fight to the bitter end regardless of the circumstances, I’ve got one question for you. Do you honestly believe you could actually keep that promise when the moment truly hits? Is that something you say because you genuinely feel you have that kind of grit, or did you see someone else pull off something similar that inspired you? (And I’m not talking about Susan Lewis2, if you catch my drift.) Are you actually prepared to just go to bed and spend every single minute staring at a blank white wall for, say, the next year? I know I’m probably being a bit intense with this question, but I just want to push you guys to think a little deeper about what you're saying. It’s easy to talk a big game and convince yourself you’re made of steel, but that illusion tends to shatter right when you need it most.
Also, a quick question for the whole group:
How would you even begin to share a thought like this with your family? I think my parents are pretty level-headed and they’d eventually get it, but I can't see any way to bring it up without causing a massive scene. The initial shock would just wreck them and they wouldn't be able to think straight; I'd be doing more harm than good just by opening my mouth, and since everything is still so theoretical right now, I’m not sure if it's even worth the fallout.
If I believed it would lead to a positive outcome, then absolutely... just look up the concept of visualization in professional sports...
Laura Hayes74 said:@samting: without getting into any "major surgeries," you might get maybe a year or so out of it, depending on how things play out and just how effective those temporary fixes end up being.
If you go the route of "serious operations," the goal is obviously a longer lifespan—aiming for those double digits. But don't let this seemingly obvious or "simple" choice fool you; the reality is way more complicated, and there's a massive chance you just end up spending years bouncing between hospitals and operating rooms only to face an inevitable ending that’s much harder to deal with.
@armagedon: I've realized firsthand just how much of a mental game this all is. And look, I'm not disputing that; you have to be strong and determined and constantly push yourself forward, otherwise nothing really matters. But where I disagree is with this whole "coward vs. warrior" narrative. Personally, I don't think there's anything honorable about a guy trying to fight a wildfire with a handheld fan when he's got a tank of rocket fuel sitting right next to him to burn through it in a second.😁 Okay, it's a bit of a goofy analogy, but it captures exactly what I'm getting at.
Our entire perception of life is psychological. Perhaps psychotherapy could serve as the first step toward true self-healing...