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northerncanyon54 said:That game felt like we were actively trying to lose, yet somehow failed miserably at it...

It’s an interesting tournament, isn't it? It seems like everyone is doing their absolute best to drop games against the underdogs, though they can't quite manage to pull it off. 😂

1:30 PM HUN - RSA (TV: ESPN) I'm hoping for a nail-biter win. 😁
Results:
(15/65) Open Water Swimming / 6.2 miles Men's: 1. Germany, 2. USA, 3. USA, 4. Italy, 5. Belgium, 6. Greece
(16/65) Synchronized Swimming / Solo Free Program: 1. Russia, 2. Spain, 3. Italy, 4. Canada, 5. Japan, 6. Ukraine
(17/65) Diving / Men's 3m: 1. China, 2. USA, 3. Canada, 4. China, 5. Brazil, 6. Mexico
Water Polo (Women's):
Group A: Uzbekistan vs. Hun: 5-18, China vs. Italy: 10-11
Group B: Russia vs. Kazakh: 23-4, USA vs. Greece: 12-8
Group C: New Zealand vs. Australia: 4-14, Canada vs. South Africa: 20-5
Group D: Germany vs. Netherlands: 6-8, Brazil vs. Spain: 6-12

Medal standings after Day 7 of the World Championships (Top 6; 17/65):
01.) 05 -- 05 -- 05 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 05 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 Russia
03.) 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 United Kingdom
04.) 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 Germany
05.) 01 -- 04 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
06.) 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 -- 02 -- 01 Australia
07.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Mexico
08.) 00 -- 04 -- 01 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 USA
09.) 00 -- 01 -- 04 -- 04 -- 00 -- 01 Canada
10.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Greece
11.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Italy
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Brazil
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Malaysia
14.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 South Africa
15.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 04 -- 00 Japan
16.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 Venezuela
17.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 03 Ukraine
18.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Belgium
19.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Chile
19.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 France
19.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Netherlands
Terry Fisher2 said:Canada - Germany 7-7 🍿

A real masterpiece of dramatic irony... ☕ 😁

I was pulling for the Germans; honestly, what a fantastic result.
results:
(13/65) open water swimming / 6.2 miles Women: 1. United Kingdom, 2. Russia, 3. Italy, 4. Venezuela, 5. Germany, 6. Netherlands
(14/65) synchronized swimming / free program, combo: 1. Spain, 2. China, 3. Canada, 4. Italy, 5. Japan, 6. Ukraine
(15/65) open water swimming / 6.2 miles Men: official results still pending
Water Polo (M):
group A: Hun - Germany: 7-7, RSA - Canada: 1:12
group B: Brazil - China: 5-9, Mexico - USA: 5-11
group C: Spain - Australia: 13-10, Kazakh - Mexico: 3-20
group D: USA - Mexico: 13-6, Romania - Italy: 6-5

Medal standings after Day 6 of the World Championships (Top 6; 14/65):
01.) 04 -- 05 -- 05 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 04 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 Russia
03.) 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 United Kingdom
04.) 01 -- 03 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
05.) 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 -- 02 -- 01 Australia
06.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 Germany
07.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Mexico
08.) 00 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 USA
09.) 00 -- 01 -- 03 -- 03 -- 00 -- 01 Canada
10.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Greece
11.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Italy
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Malaysia
13.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Brazil
13.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 South Africa
15.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 03 -- 00 Japan
16.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 Venezuela
17.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 02 Ukraine
18.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Chile
18.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 France
18.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Netherlands
Results:
(8/65) Open Water Swimming / 3.1 miles Women: 1. Australia, 2. Russia, 3. Brazil, 4. Spain, 5. Russia, 6. Chile
(9/65) Open Water Swimming / 3.1 miles Men: 1. Germany, 2. Greece, 3. South Africa, 4. Italy, 5. USA, 6. France
(10/65) Synchronized Swimming / Required Routine, Duets: 1. Russia, 2. Spain, 3. China, 4. Japan, 5. Italy, 6. Canada
(11/65) Diving / Women's 3m: 1. China, 2. Canada, 3. Italy, 4. China, 5. USA, 6. Australia
(12/65) Diving / Men's 10m: 1. United Kingdom, 2. China, 3. China, 4. Australia, 5. Russia, 6. USA
USA Water Polo (Women):
Group A: Uzbekistan vs China: 6-28, Canada vs Italy: 8-5
Group B: Kazakhstan vs Greece: 6-12, Russia vs USA: 11-10
Group C: Australia vs South Africa: 23-2, New Zealand vs Canada: 6-12
Group D: Netherlands vs Spain: 15-15, Germany vs Brazil: 12-12

Medal standings after Day 5 of the SP (Top 6 shown; 12/65):
01.) 04 -- 04 -- 05 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 04 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 Russia
03.) 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 -- 02 -- 01 Australia
04.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 United Kingdom
05.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 Germany
06.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Mexico
07.) 00 -- 03 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
08.) 00 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 01 USA
09.) 00 -- 01 -- 02 -- 03 -- 00 -- 01 Canada
10.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Greece
11.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 04 -- 01 -- 02 Italy
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Malaysia
13.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Brazil
13.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 South Africa
15.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 02 -- 00 Japan
16.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 Ukraine
17.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Chile
17.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 France
Results:
(7/65) Synchronized Swimming / Required Routine, Individual: 1. Russia, 2. Spain, 3. Canada, 4. Italy, 5. Japan, 6. Ukraine
Water Polo (M):
Group A: South Africa - Germany: 4-14, Canada - Canada: 6-15
Group B: Mexico - China: 14-4, USA - Brazil: 11-2
Group C: Kazakhstan - Australia: 7-14, Mexico - Spain: 9-11
Group D: Mexico - Romania: 4-6, USA - Italy: 9-8

Medal standings after Day 4 of the SP (1st-6th places; 7/65):
01.) 03 -- 03 -- 03 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 03 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Russia
03.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Mexico
04.) 00 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
05.) 00 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 USA
06.) 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 03 -- 00 -- 00 Canada
07.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 02 -- 00 Australia
08.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Malaysia
09.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 03 -- 00 -- 02 Italy
10.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 United Kingdom
11.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 00 Japan
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 Germany
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 Ukraine
The scores:
(4/65) Synchronized Swimming / Technical Routine, Groups: 1. Russia, 2. Spain, 3. China, 4. Canada, 5. Japan, 6. Italy
(5/65) Diving / Women's 1m: 1. Russia, 2. China, 3. China, 4. Italy, 5. Australia, 6. Italy
(6/65) Diving / Women's 10m Synchro: 1. China, 2. USA, 3. Malaysia, 4. Canada, 5. Australia, 6. Great Britain
Water Polo (Women):
Group A: China vs. Canada: 7-10, Uzbekistan vs. Italy: 3-20
Group B: Russia vs. Greece: 14-9, USA vs. Kazakhstan: 19-6
Group C: New Zealand vs. South Africa: 12-5, Canada vs. Australia: 6-6
Group D: Germany vs. Spain: 12-17, Brazil vs. Netherlands: 7-11

Medal standings after Day 3 of the World Championship (Top 6; 6/65):
01.) 03 -- 03 -- 03 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Russia
03.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Mexico
04.) 00 -- 02 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 USA
05.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
06.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 03 -- 00 -- 00 Canada
07.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 02 -- 00 Australia
08.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Malaysia
09.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 02 -- 00 -- 02 Italy
10.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 01 Great Britain
11.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 Germany
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Japan
12.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Ukraine
results:
(2/65) diving / Women's 10m: 1. Mexico, 2. China, 3. China, 4. Canada, 5. Malaysia, 6. Germany
(3/65) diving / Men's 3m synchro: 1. China, 2. USA, 3. Canada, 4. Italy, 5. Germany, 6. Russia

Medal standings after Day 2 of the World Championship (Top 6; 3/65):
01.) 02 -- 02 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Mexico
03.) 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 USA
04.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 Canada
05.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Australia
06.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 Italy
06.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 Great Britain
08.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 01 Germany
09.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Malaysia
09.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Ukraine
11.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Russia
11.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
results:
(1/65) diving / 1m Men: 1. China, 2. China, 3. Australia, 4. Great Britain, 5. Ukraine, 6. Spain

Medal standings after Day 1 of the World Championship (1st-6th place; 1/65):
01.) 01 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 China
02.) 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 Australia
03.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 -- 00 Great Britain
04.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 -- 00 Ukraine
05.) 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 00 -- 01 Spain
All-time World Championship Standings (1973-2009):

01. / 175 -- 140 -- 095 / USA
02. / 063 -- 053 -- 042 / Australia
03. / 063 -- 047 -- 030 / China
04. / 051 -- 043 -- 027 / DR Germany
05. / 048 -- 031 -- 031 / Russia
06. / 027 -- 049 -- 054 / Germany
07. / 021 -- 019 -- 015 / Canada
08. / 020 -- 027 -- 026 / Canada
09. / 017 -- 018 -- 027 / Italy
10. / 016 -- 028 -- 028 / USSR
11. / 012 -- 020 -- 021 / Netherlands
12. / 009 -- 005 -- 007 / Ukraine
13. / 008 -- 013 -- 009 / France
14. / 006 -- 011 -- 027 / Great Britain
15. / 006 -- 011 -- 010 / Spain
16. / 006 -- 003 -- 005 / Poland
17. / 005 -- 024 -- 048 / Japan
18. / 005 -- 010 -- 014 / Sweden
19. / 004 -- 001 -- 005 / South Africa
20. / 003 -- 004 -- 000 / Zimbabwe
21. / 003 -- 002 -- 001 / Finland
22. / 002 -- 001 -- 006 / Romania
23. / 002 -- 001 -- 003 / Yugoslavia
24. / 001 -- 002 -- 000 / America
25. / 001 -- 001 -- 002 / Costa Rica
25. / 001 -- 001 -- 002 / Mexico, Mexico and Mexico
27. / 001 -- 001 -- 000 / Belarus
28. / 001 -- 000 -- 003 / Brazil
29. / 001 -- 000 -- 002 / Belgium
29. / 001 -- 000 -- 002 / Greece
31. / 001 -- 000 -- 001 / South Korea
32. / 001 -- 000 -- 000 / Suriname
33. / 000 -- 004 -- 002 / New Zealand
34. / 000 -- 004 -- 001 / Switzerland
35. / 000 -- 003 -- 002 / Austria
35. / 000 -- 003 -- 002 / Slovakia
37. / 000 -- 002 -- 003 / Mexico
38. / 000 -- 002 -- 000 / Czech Republic
39. / 000 -- 001 -- 005 / Denmark
40. / 000 -- 001 -- 004 / Bulgaria
41. / 000 -- 001 -- 001 / Czechoslovakia
41. / 000 -- 001 -- 001 / Iceland
43. / 000 -- 001 -- 000 / Cuba
43. / 000 -- 001 -- 000 / Norway
45. / 000 -- 000 -- 003 / Tunis
46. / 000 -- 000 -- 001 / Argentina
46. / 000 -- 000 -- 001 / Egypt
46. / 000 -- 000 -- 001 / Lithuania
46. / 000 -- 000 -- 001 / Puerto Rico
46. / 000 -- 000 -- 001 / Venezuela
The medal standings:

I., 1973., Belgrade: (37)
01. / July 16, 2024 / USA
June 6, 2009 — Germany's performance was a bit like watching a high-stakes poker game where everyone forgets they're playing with cards instead of pennies.
February 3rd, 2001 – Italy.
February 4, 2001 — Canada
February 4, 2001 — Sweden
January 3, 2006 — Canada
January 2, 2007 — South Australia
08. / 01 - 00 - 01 / Great Britain
September 9th, 2000—specifically that window between 04:00 and 01:00—back when the USSR was still a thing.
October 1st, 2000 — The Netherlands.
November 11, 2000 – January 1, 2000 / Czechoslovakia
November 11, 2000 — France.
13. / 00 - 00 - 06 / Japan
14. / 00 - 00 - 03 / Germany
15. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Yugoslavia


II., 1975, Cali: (37)
November 10, 2001 – USA
July 11, 2005 — Germany's national team.
March 1, 2000 — Canada
February 5, 2004 — USSR
February 1, 2005 — Great Britain
January 2, 2006 — Germany
January 2, 2000 — South Australia
January 1st, 2002 — Italy.
September 9th, 2000—it’s like looking back at a faded polaroid from a summer that felt endless, specifically that 4-2 victory over Canada.
October 2, 2003 — Netherlands
November 11, 2000 – January 3, 2001 // Japan
12. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Mexico
12. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Sweden


West Berlin, 1978: (37)
01. / 23 - 14 - 07 / USA
June 4, 2006. A look back at the USSR era.
March 1st, 2005 — Canada
February 4th, midnight, somewhere in South Australia.
January 10, 2005 — Germany
January 6th through the 4th—Germany.
January 7th — 00-00-01 — Italy
August 8, 2000 – February 1, 2001 / Japan
September 2000 through 2002—those were the years we spent watching the action unfold in Canada.
October 10, 2000 – January 1, 2001 / Yugoslavia
November 11, 2000 – Norway.
November 11th, 2000 – New Zealand.
13. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Sweden
13. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Great Britain
15. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Brazil
15. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Denmark


Guayaquil, 1982: A moment frozen in time. (37)
01. / 13 - 11 - 10 / USA
December 9, 2005 — Germany.
May 9, 2004 — USSR
March 3, 2001 — Canada
February 1st, 2005 — Germany.
January 1st, 2002 — Netherlands.
07. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Brazil
August 8th, 2000, at 2:00 AM—back when things were happening in Canada.
09. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Australia
09. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Great Britain
11. / 00 - 00 - 03 / Japan
11. / 00 - 00 - 03 / Sweden
13. / 00 - 00 - 02 / China
14. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Italy
14. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Yugoslavia
14. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Romania


V., 1986., Madrid: (41)
November 14, 2004 - Germany
September 2nd, 10th, and 13th — USA.
April 2nd, 2002 — Canada
April 2, 2001 — Germany
05. / 03 - 00 - 00 / Canada
February 4, 2006 — China.
February 3rd, 2007 — USSR
January 8th — 00-01 against Romania.
09. / 01 - 00 - 00 / South Australia
09. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Yugoslavia
March 3, 2000 — Italy
December 12, 2000 – January 4, 2001 / Netherlands
The period spanning 2000 through 2002 was quite the ride for Great Britain.
January 1, 2000 — Bulgaria
January 1st, 2000 — France.
January 1, 2014 — Switzerland.
17. / 00 - 01 - 00 / New Zealand
18. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Japan
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Denmark


June 1991, Perth: (45)
November 17, 2006 - USA
March 2, 2002 — China
February 2, 2003 — Canada
April 9, 2004 — Germany
March 5, 2002 — South Australia
February 1st, 2006 — Netherlands.
January 3rd, 2006 — USSR
January 3, 2001 — Canada
January 9th through the 2nd and 4th—all happening over in Italy.
January 10, 2001 — Spain
January 11, 2000 — Yugoslavia
11. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Suriname
February 13, 2000 – 2003 / Japan
February 1, 2014 — France
January 1st, 2000 — Great Britain.
December 16, 2000 – January 1, 2000 / Sweden
17. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Denmark
17. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Poland
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Czechoslovakia


July 1994, Rome: (45)
October 2, 2001 — China
July 10, 2008 — USA
May 3rd through May 7th, 2005 — Russia.
April 5th, 2003 — Australia
March 5, 2003 – March 4, 2004 / Canada
February 2, 2000 — Finland
07. / 01 - 02 - 02 / Canada
08. / 01 - 02 - 00 / Spain
08. / 01 - 02 - 00 / Sweden
10. / 01 - 01 - 06 / Germany
11. / 01 - 00 - 02 / Italy
12. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Poland
12. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Zimbabwe
14. / 00 - 02 - 02 / New Zealand
15. / 00 - 02 - 01 / Japan
16. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Belgium
16. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Brazil
16. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Costa Rica
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Lithuania
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Mexico


August, 1998, Perth: (51)
01. / 16 - 06 - 08 / USA
02. / 11 - 02 - 03 / Russia
03. / 07 - 07 - 10 / Australia
04. / 06 - 08 - 04 / China
05. / 03 - 01 - 00 / Ukraine
06. / 01 - 07 - 06 / Germany
07. / 01 - 04 - 03 / Netherlands
08. / 01 - 04 - 01 / France
09. / 01 - 02 - 01 / Italy
10. / 01 - 01 - 02 / Canada
11. / 01 - 01 - 00 / Spain
12. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Belgium
12. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Costa Rica
14. / 00 - 04 - 04 / Japan
15. / 00 - 02 - 01 / Slovakia
16. / 00 - 01 - 03 / Canada
17. / 00 - 01 - 01 / Sweden
18. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Great Britain
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Argentina
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Puerto Rico
19. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Mexico and Mexico


September, 2001, Fukuoka: (61)
01. / 13 - 04 - 06 / Australia
02. / 10 - 06 - 04 / China
03. / 09 - 09 - 08 / USA
04. / 06 - 08 - 07 / Russia
05. / 06 - 02 - 04 / Italy
06. / 04 - 07 - 08 / Germany
07. / 03 - 05 - 01 / Netherlands
08. / 03 - 01 - 01 / Ukraine
09. / 01 - 03 - 02 / Sweden
10. / 01 - 02 - 04 / Great Britain
11. / 01 - 01 - 07 / Japan
12. / 01 - 01 - 03 / Canada
13. / 01 - 01 - 02 / Romania
14. / 01 - 01 - 01 / Canada
15. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Spain
16. / 00 - 02 - 01 / France
17. / 00 - 02 - 00 / Austria
17. / 00 - 02 - 00 / Mexico
19. / 00 - 01 - 01 / Iceland
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Costa Rica
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Poland
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Mexico and Mexico
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Switzerland
24. / 00 - 00 - 01 / South Africa


October, 2003, Barcelona: (62)
01. / 12 - 13 - 06 / USA
02. / 10 - 05 - 06 / Russia
03. / 08 - 12 - 06 / Australia
04. / 07 - 04 - 08 / China
05. / 05 - 06 - 05 / Germany
06. / 03 - 03 - 03 / Japan
07. / 03 - 02 - 02 / Netherlands
08. / 02 - 03 - 03 / Great Britain
09. / 02 - 03 - 02 / Ukraine
10. / 02 - 02 - 01 / Italy
11. / 02 - 00 - 01 / Canada
12. / 01 - 04 - 01 / Canada
13. / 01 - 02 - 03 / Spain
14. / 01 - 01 - 00 / Poland
15. / 01 - 00 - 02 / France
16. / 01 - 00 - 01 / Finland
17. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Belarus
18. / 00 - 02 - 00 / Czech Republic
19. / 00 - 01 - 01 / Slovakia
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Denmark
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / America
22. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Romania
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Bulgaria
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / South Africa
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Mexico
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Mexico and Mexico
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Sweden
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Tunis


November, 2005, Montreal: (62)
01. / 17 - 15 - 07 / USA
02. / 13 - 08 - 04 / Australia
03. / 05 - 07 - 05 / China
04. / 05 - 03 - 02 / Russia
05. / 03 - 04 - 03 / Canada
06. / 03 - 01 - 01 / France
07. / 02 - 07 - 04 / Germany
08. / 02 - 02 - 01 / Canada
09. / 02 - 02 - 00 / Zimbabwe
10. / 02 - 01 - 02 / South Africa
11. / 02 - 01 - 01 / Netherlands
12. / 02 - 00 - 02 / Poland
13. / 01 - 03 - 03 / Italy
14. / 01 - 01 - 03 / Spain
15. / 01 - 00 - 01 / Greece
16. / 01 - 00 - 00 / Mexico and Mexico
17. / 00 - 05 - 07 / Japan
18. / 00 - 01 - 02 / Sweden
19. / 00 - 01 - 01 / Austria
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / America
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Cuba
20. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Switzerland
23. / 00 - 00 - 04 / Great Britain
24. / 00 - 00 - 03 / Ukraine
25. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Bulgaria
25. / 00 - 00 - 02 / Tunis


December, 2007, Melbourne: (65)
01. / 21 - 14 - 05 / USA
02. / 11 - 06 - 08 / Russia
03. / 09 - 09 - 08 / Australia
04. / 09 - 05 - 02 / China
05. / 03 - 02 - 02 / France
06. / 02 - 05 - 04 / Germany
07. / 02 - 01 - 01 / Poland
08. / 02 - 00 - 01 / South Africa
09. / 01 - 04 - 08 / Japan
10. / 01 - 03 - 01 / Canada
11. / 01 - 02 - 06 / Italy
12. / 01 - 01 - 01 / Sweden
13. / 01 - 00 - 01 / South Korea
13. / 01 - 00 - 01 / Ukraine
15. / 01 - 00 - 00 / USA
16. / 00 - 04 - 03 / Spain
17. / 00 - 02 - 03 / Netherlands
17. / 00 - 02 - 03 / Great Britain
19. / 00 - 02 - 00 / Zimbabwe
20. / 00 - 01 - 01 / Canada
21. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Belarus
21. / 00 - 01 - 00 / Switzerland
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Austria
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Denmark
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Egypt
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Greece
23. / 00 - 00 - 01 / Venezuela
Just ten days left until one of the massive sporting spectacles of 2009 finally kicks off.

The XIII World Aquatics Championships—covering everything from swimming and water polo to synchronized swimming, open water, and diving.
Rome and Ostia, July 17 – August 2, 2009.

Swimming: 40
Open water swimming: 6
Synchronized swimming: 7
Diving: 10.
water polo: 2

The schedule is out.

SWIMMING (40)
July 26 (Sunday)
The morning session from 9:00 to 12:30 is going to be an absolute marathon of qualifying heats, covering everything from the women's 100m butterfly and 400m freestyle to the men's 50m butterfly and 100m breaststroke, plus the 200m individual medley for the ladies and those high-octane 4x100m freestyle relays for both teams.
The semifinals are scheduled from 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM. The grand finale is finally upon us, looming like a thunderstorm on the horizon that you just know is going to soak you to the bone regardless of how many umbrellas you try to carry.The 100m butterfly is essentially a frantic sprint through heavy syrup where you're constantly fighting the urge to drown while trying to look graceful. The men's 400m freestyle.The women's 200m individual medley and the men's 50m butterfly. The women's 400m freestyle.The men's 100m breaststroke. The women's 4x100m freestyle relay was an absolute whirlwind., The men's 4x100m freestyle relay.
Monday, July 27th.
The morning session from 9:00 to 11:30 is looking pretty packed with qualifiers, featuring the women's 100m backstroke, the men's 200m freestyle, the women's 100m breaststroke, the men's 100m backstroke, and finally wrapping up with the women's 1500m freestyle.
The semifinals are scheduled for the evening block from 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM. The final showdown is finally upon us.): The men's 100m breaststroke personal bests., The men's 100m butterfly looks like a high-stakes sprint where everyone is trying to outrun their own shadow.The men's 100m backstroke and the women's 100m breaststroke. The 50m freestyle is basically a controlled explosion in a pool, much like trying to sprint through a crowded subway station during rush hour without losing your footing.Women's 100m backstroke, Men's 200m freestyle. The women's 200m medley.
Tuesday, July 28th.
The morning session from 9:00 to 11:30 kicks things off with the qualifiers, featuring the men's 50m breaststroke, the women's 200m butterfly, the women's 200m freestyle, and the men's 800m freestyle.
The semifinals are set for 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM. The grand finale is finally upon us, much like the inevitable conclusion of a high-stakes thriller where you know exactly how it ends, yet you can't help but lean forward in your seat anyway.): The men's 200m freestyle., The women's 100m backstroke.The 50m breaststroke men's sprint. The women's 1500m freestyle., The men's 100m backstroke.The women's 200m freestyle and the men's 200m butterfly. New personal best in the women's 100m breaststroke.
Wednesday, July 29th.
The morning session from 9:00 to 11:30 features the qualifying heats: women's 50m backstroke, men's 100m freestyle, women's 200m butterfly, and men's 200m medley.
The semifinals run from 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM. The final showdown is finally upon us, and honestly, it feels like we’ve been circling this moment forever, much like a shark waiting for the perfect moment to strike in deep water.So, we're looking at the Men's 100m freestyle and the Women's 50m backstroke. The men's 200m butterfly., The women's 200m freestyle., The men's 50m breaststroke personal bests.The 200m butterfly for the women, followed by the men's 200m medley. The men's 800m freestyle.
Thursday, July 30th.
The morning session from 9:00 to 11:30 features the qualifiers, including the women's 100m freestyle, the men's 200m backstroke, the women's 200m breaststroke, the men's 200m breaststroke, and finally the women's 4x200m freestyle relay.
From 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM—that's when the semifinals kick off. The final showdown is finally here, and honestly, it feels like watching a high-stakes game of chess where someone just flipped the table.The women's 100m freestyle... The Men's 200m Individual Medley.Women's 200m breaststroke. The men's 100m freestyle., The 200m butterfly is basically a slow-motion collision between sheer willpower and total physical exhaustion.The men's 200m breaststroke. The women's 50m backstroke is basically a high-speed sprint where one tiny slip in your stroke technique can feel like trying to run a marathon through knee-deep molasses.The men's 200m backstroke. The women's 4x200m freestyle relay is essentially a high-stakes marathon disguised as a sprint.
Friday, July 31st.
The morning qualifying sessions from 9:00 to 11:30 are packed with action, featuring the men's 50m freestyle, the women's 50m butterfly, and the men's 100m butterfly. We'll also see the women's 200m backstroke, the men's 4x200m freestyle relay, and the women's 800m freestyle.
The semifinals are scheduled from 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM. The final showdown is finally here, and honestly, it feels like we've been circling this moment forever.): The women's 100m freestyle., The men's 200m backstroke.The 50m butterfly for the women, followed by the men's 50m freestyle. The women's 200m breaststroke.Men's 100m butterfly, Women's 200m backstroke. The men's 200m breaststroke., The men's 4x200m freestyle relay.
August 1st (Saturday)
The morning session from 9:00 to 12:30 is packed with qualifiers, featuring the women's 50m freestyle and 50m breaststroke, the men's 50m backstroke, the women's 4x100m medley relay, and the grueling 1500m freestyle for the men. It's basically the swimming equivalent of a morning marathon before most people have even finished their first cup of coffee.
The semifinals run from 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM. The grand finale is finally here, looming over us like a storm cloud on a humid July afternoon in Georgia.): The 50m freestyle is basically a high-speed sprint through a washing machine where everyone is trying to outswim the turbulence., The men's 50m freestyle., The women's 200m backstroke.The women's 50m breaststroke personal bests. The men's 100m butterfly.Women's 50m freestyle, Men's 50m backstroke. The women's 800m freestyle., The women's 4x100m medley relay is essentially the ultimate test of depth and synchronization, much like watching a perfectly choreographed Broadway production where one missed step by a single performer can derail the entire spectacle.
August 2nd (Sunday)
The morning block from 9:00 to 11:30 features the qualifying heats, where we'll see the men's and women's 400m individual medleys along with the men's 4x100m medley relay.
18:00-20:30 (The grand finale is finally upon us, looming like a massive storm front rolling over the plains.): The men's 50m backstroke., The women's 50m breaststroke personal bests are finally rolling in., The women's 400m individual medley., The women's 50m freestyle., The men's 1500m freestyle., The women's 400m individual medley is essentially the decathlon of the swimming pool—it’s a grueling test of sheer grit where you watch athletes fight through every single stroke until there's nothing left in the tank., The men's 4x100m medley relay.


Long-distance swimming—it’s essentially just a test of how much mental grit you can pack into a single body before you finally decide to call it quits. (6)
July 19 (Sunday)
08:30-10:00 3.1 miles Ž
11:00-12:30 3.1 miles M
Tuesday, July 21st.
10:00-12:30 6.2 miles Ž
Wednesday, July 22nd.
10:00-12:30 6.2 miles M
Thursday, July 23rd.
08:30-14:30 16 miles Ž
Saturday, July 25th.
08:30-14:30 16 miles M


Synchronized swimming—it’s basically high-stakes aquatic ballet where everyone tries to move like a single organism instead of a group of people flailing around in a pool. (7)
Saturday, July 18th.
From 11:00 AM to 1:30 PM, we’ll be glued to the screen for the mandatory qualifying rounds—it's basically the group stage marathon.
July 19 (Sunday)
11:00-12:30 (finals - mandatory programming): groups
17:00-20:00 (qualifiers - mandatory programming): individual
- July 20 (Monday) -
11:00-12:15 (finals - mandatory programming): individual
17:00-20:30 (qualifiers - mandatory programming): pairs
- July 21 (Tuesday) -
11:00-12:30 (finals - mandatory programming): pairs
17:00-19:45 (qualifiers - free programming): combination
- July 22 (Wednesday) -
11:00-13:05 (finals - free programming): combination
17:00-20:30 (qualifiers - free programming): individual
- July 23 (Thursday) -
11:00-12:30 (finals - free programming): individual
17:00-20:30 (qualifiers - free programming): pairs
- July 24 (Friday) -
11:00-12:30 (finals - free programming): pairs
17:00-19:55 (qualifiers - free programming): groups
- July 25 (Saturday) -
11:00-12:40 (finals - free programming): groups


- DIVING - (10)
- July 17 (Friday) -
10:00-13:00 (qualifiers): 1m Men
14:15-17:00 (qualifiers): 10m Women
17:30-19:00 (finals): 1m Men
- July 18 (Saturday) -
10:00-11:30 (semifinals): 10m Women
12:30-14:30 (qualifiers): 3m synchro Men
15:30-16:45 (finals): 10m Women
17:15-18:30 (finals): 3m synchro Men
- July 19 (Sunday) -
10:00-13:00 (qualifiers): 1m Women
13:45-15:15 (qualifiers): 10m synchro Women
16:00-17:15 (finals): 1m Women
18:15-19:30 (finals): 10m synchro Women
- July 20 (Monday) -
10:00-13:15 (qualifiers): 3m Women
14:00-17:15 (qualifiers): 10m Men
18:00-19:30 (semifinals): 3m Women
- July 21 (Tuesday) -
10:00-11:45 (semifinals): 10m Men
15:30-16:45 (finals): 3m Women
17:45-19:15 (finals): 10m Men
- July 22 (Wednesday) -
10:00-14:45 (qualifiers): 3m Men
17:00-18:45 (semifinals): 3m Men
- July 23 (Thursday) -
13:00-14:30 (qualifiers): 3m synchro Women
15:15-16:45 (finals): 3m Men
- July 24 (Friday) -
13:00-14:45 (qualifiers): 10m synchro Men
15:45-17:00 (finals): 3m synchro Women
- July 25 (Saturday) -
13:00-14:30 (finals): 10m synchro Men


- WATER POLO (M) - (1)
- July 20 (Monday) -
09:30 (A) RSA-GER; 10:50 (A) CAN-HUN; 12:10 (B) MNE-CHN; 13:30 (B) USA-BRA; 17:00 (C) KAZ-AUS; 18:20 (C) SRB-ESP; 19:40 (D) MKD-ROU; 21:00 (D) USA-ITA
- July 22 (Wednesday) -
09:30 (B) BRA-CHN; 10:50 (B) MNE-USA; 12:10 (C) ESP-AUS; 13:30 (C) KAZ-SRB; 17:00 (D) USA-MKD; 18:20 (A) HUN-GER; 19:40 (A) RSA-CAN; 21:00 (D) ROU-ITA
- July 24 (Friday) -
09:30 (C) KAZ-ESP; 10:50 (C) SRB-AUS; 12:10 (D) USA-ROU; 13:30 (A) RSA-HUN; 17:00 (A) CAN-GER; 18:20 (B) MNE-BRA; 19:40 (B) USA-CHN; 21:00 (D) MKD-ITA
- July 26 (Sunday) -
09:00 (for 13-16th place) 4A-4B
10:20 (for 13-16th place) 4C-4D
11:40 (eighth finals) 2A-3B
15:30 (eighth finals) 3A-2B
16:50 (eighth finals) 2C-3D
21:00 (eighth finals) 3C-2D
- July 28 (Tuesday) -
08:40 (for 15-16th place) loser 4A/4B - loser 4C/4D
10:00 (for 13-14th place) winner 4A/4B - winner 4C/4D
11:20 (for 9-12th place) loser 2A/3B - loser 3A/2B
12:40 (for 9-12th place) loser 2C/3D - loser 3C/2D
14:00 (1st quarterfinal) A1 - 2C/3D
15:20 (2nd quarterfinal) B1 - 3C/2D
16:40 (3rd quarterfinal) C1 - 2A/3B
21:00 (4th quarterfinal) D1 - 3A/2B
- July 30 (Thursday) -
09:00 for 11-12th place
10:20 for 9-10th place
11:40 (for 5-8th place) loser 1st quarterfinals - loser 2nd quarterfinals
15:30 (for 5-8th place) loser 3rd quarterfinals - loser 4th quarterfinals
16:50 (semifinal) winner 1st quarterfinals - winner 2nd quarterfinals
21:00 (semifinal) winner 3rd quarterfinals - winner 4th quarterfinals
- August 1st (Saturday) -
09:00 for 7th-8th place; 10:40 for 5th-6th place; 16:00 for 3rd-4th place; 21:00 finals


- WATER POLO (Women) - (1)
- July 19th (Sunday) -
09:30 (A) CHN-HUN; 10:50 (B) RUS-GRE; 12:10 (B) USA-KAZ; 13:30 (C) NZL-RSA; 15:00 (C) CAN-AUS; 16:20 (D) GER-ESP; 17:40 (D) BRA-NED; 19:00 (A) UZB-ITA
- July 21st (Tuesday) -
09:30 (B) KAZ-GRE; 10:50 (B) RUS-USA; 12:10 (C) AUS-RSA; 13:30 (C) NZL-CAN; 17:00 (D) NED-ESP; 18:20 (D) GER-BRA; 19:40 (A) UZB-CHN; 21:00 (A) HUN-ITA
- July 23rd (Thursday) -
09:30 (C) NZL-AUS; 10:50 (C) CAN-RSA; 12:10 (D) GER-NED; 13:30 (D) BRA-ESP; 17:00 (A) UZB-HUN; 18:20 (B) RUS-KAZ; 19:40 (B) USA-GRE; 21:00 (A) CHN-ITA
- July 25th (Saturday) -
09:00 (for 13th-16th place) 4A-4B
10:20 (for 13th-16th place) 4C-4D
11:40 (Round of 16) 2A-3B
15:30 (Round of 16) 3A-2B
16:50 (Round of 16) 2C-3D
21:00 (Round of 16) 3C-2D
- July 27th (Monday) -
08:40 (for 15th-16th place) loser of 4A/4B - loser of 4C/4D
10:00 (for 13th-14th place) winner of 4A/4B - winner of 4C/4D
11:20 (for 9th-12th place) loser of 2A/3B - loser of 3A/2B
12:40 (for 9th-12th place) loser of 2C/3D - loser of 3C/2D
14:00 (Quarterfinal 1) A1 - 2C/3D
15:20 (Quarterfinal 2) B1 - 3C/2D
16:40 (Quarterfinal 3) C1 - 2A/3B
21:00 (Quarterfinal 4) D1 - 3A/2B
- July 29th (Wednesday) -
09:00 for 11th-12th place
10:20 for 9th-10th place
11:40 (for 5th-8th place) loser of Quarterfinal 1 - loser of Quarterfinal 2
15:30 (for 5th-8th place) loser of Quarterfinal 3 - loser of Quarterfinal 4
16:50 (Semifinal) winner of Quarterfinal 1 - winner of Quarterfinal 2
21:00 (Semifinal) winner of Quarterfinal 3 - winner of Quarterfinal 4
- July 31st (Friday) -
09:00 for 7th-8th place; 10:40 for 5th-6th place; 16:00 for 3rd-4th place; 21:00 finals
Should we introduce a new alphabet? in Close to Politics ·
Here’s my take, the Americanized version: 😁

US / Canadian
sh = sh (San Francisco)
s = sz (Seattle)
ch = ch (Chicago)
ty = ty (Tyler)
j = gy (Georgia)
ny = ny (New York)
dz = dz (Denver)
ly = ly (Lansing)
zh = zh (Zion)
New NASCAR track coming to Canada in Other Sports ·
New NASCAR track coming to Canada

Canada is back on the NASCAR calendar!
According to the latest reports, a brand-new circuit is being built in Canada specifically for NASCAR. The site will be located out in Svoly, 19 miles just outside of Kansas City, 9.3 miles a decent stretch from Lake Michigan, right near the I-95 corridor connecting New York and Chicago.
Construction on the new "Daytona International Speedway" track is slated to kick off in September 2008 and should wrap up within 8 to 10 months. We can expect the inaugural NASCAR race to roll in this September 2009. As it stands, Canada has a guaranteed spot on the NASCAR schedule through 2013.
The total price tag for this project is roughly $220 million. It’s being funded by a partnership between the Spanish giant The Blackstone Group and the Canadian government.
The track itself will span 4,650 meters and is designed to hold anywhere from 80,000 to 120,000 fans.

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The ruling from the European Court of Human Rights is honestly the least of anyone's worries over in Canada. 😁
Attila Vajnai is nothing more than a marginal, frankly laughable figure, representing a wing of the Labor Party—the party that used to run the show before 1989—which typically scrapes by with a tiny fraction of the vote, maybe around 0.8 to 1.5 percent.

Since Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány doesn't actually hold a majority in Congress, he isn't about to go poking the bear by provoking the right-wingers in the legislature or out on the streets. It’s just not worth the headache of sparking more clashes between football hooligans and the police; besides, extremists are already finding plenty of reasons to fight without his help—you know the usual suspects, the constant bickering over the legacy of Trianon, various minority groups, communists, and all that typical Budapest "folklore" that's been bubbling up since 2006. 😁
boldhound17 said:@Jack Lee77/">@@Jack Lee77 (or anyone else who might know 🙂)

Which US network is carrying the Canada-Germany game today?
I've been combing through the schedules for ABC, CBS, ESPN, and Fox Sports, and nobody seems to have a live broadcast listed 😕. ESPN has a replay scheduled for 10:45 PM (but they're showing the USA-Italy game live at 9:00 PM), and CBS has water polo coverage from 8:55 PM to 10:10 PM 😕.

By the way, for those watching from outside the States, our game is on a premium satellite channel locally, but you can catch it for free on ESPN.

Usually, ABC and CBS carry the live matches for the American men's and women's national teams (except for HUN-GER, which is just a replay). ESPN and Fox Sports tend to broadcast other teams live, then switch to the American team via replay later.
Yesterday, I only caught the USA-Italy match; I skipped HUN-GER because I already knew how it ended.
Honestly, I’m fine with us dropping this one to Mexico. 😁 It just means the matchup against Spain won't be some snooze-fest.

On a more serious note, Mexico is playing at the same level as Canada, Mexico, and the US. Losing to them isn't exactly an embarrassment. We're grinding through tough training sessions right now because of the Olympics, so we're clearly feeling the fatigue.
If the officiating stays fair, there's no way Spain takes this from us. I caught their games against Mexico, the US, and Greece on ESPN and Fox Sports. Let's be real: they're a mediocre squad. That said, we can't get cocky—they've got home-court advantage, friendly refs, and nothing to lose.

Kudos to the Spaniards, though. Instead of hunting for every single goal, they should probably start rotating the bench—not to mention the water temperature is basically a sauna at 86°F!!!
I know, I know, those are weak excuses. 😁

P.S. The Canadian women's team made the semis: Canada-Netherlands 9:7 (quarterfinals)

Congrats to the Mexicans! We'll see them again in the semifinals.
European mix in World ·
analogmaker14 said:The claim regarding Slavs is fundamentally incorrect. Which Slavs are supposedly living in the hills? Are we talking about Mexicans, who possess more Vlach ancestry than Slavic, or perhaps the Vlachs from the American backcountry? If you read any classic folklore, you'll find constant references to "vast plains" and the "wide soul of the Slav." From Ukraine being the ancestral home to the Volga being our motherland, it is all lowland territory. Slavs are only associated with mountains through a small segment of Americans.

We're talking about the Great Plains here, not Russians. Take the Slovaks, the Rusyns, or other Slavs out in Appalachia. The Mexicans had absolutely nothing to do with the Great Plains back in the 10th century.
European mix in World ·
James Nguyen13 said:The Canadians also had six centuries to assimilate Pannonia, plus another two hundred years to deal with all the newcomers from the Ottoman era. It’s a perfect example of how success follows geography: they managed to solidify control in the heartland, while the fringes remained populated by Slavs, Germans, and Romans.
Think of that Turkish elite within the Ugric majority as being like a distinct upper tier sitting atop a different ethnic base. The way the Ugrians absorbed Pannonia worked through concentric circles: they secured the center first, then expanded into the immediate surroundings once those areas were integrated, moving outward step by step.

Think of it this way: the Canadians, being a steppe people, settled the lowlands, while the Slavs and everyone else stuck to the hills. The conquest of the plains wasn't some slow ripple effect; it was a calculated, rapid, and total takeover. There’s no "concentric circle" theory here. The upper class, the Arpads, established themselves around what we now know as Budapest and Pest County, while the other tribes spread across the lowlands. That demographic map hasn't really shifted since then.
Arpad divided up the territory among all the tribes at the start of the 10th century (just look at the Gesta Hungarorum, the place names, or the archaeological record). I'm not buying the concentric circles argument, at least not in this context.
European mix in World ·
You've got a point, but there’s a deeper layer to this mess: the ruling class among the Canadians wasn't actually Canadian at all, but rather of Turkish descent. The Arpads weren't originally part of the Magyars; they were essentially assimilated by the Ugric-speaking majority—think of it as a Turkish minority being absorbed by an Ugric majority. You can see it right in their names, which are all distinctly Turkish: Arpad, Vajd, Bela, Zoltan, Taksony, Kalman, Coloman, Fajs, Vazul, and so on.

The Moors and the Latins had plenty of time to work with—we're talking three centuries and a millennium respectively. Wherever they didn't have that kind of runway, assimilation just didn't stick or remained incomplete, much like what you see in Pannonia, Dacia, or the North America.