Why do some people hate America?

Anyway, I already laid out my reasoning—Americans were always seen as a suspicious element within both versions of America. I’d argue there was a segment of Americans who just wanted to climb the ladder, which meant they had to be incredibly vocal about how much they opposed any kind of independent America and how fiercely loyal they were to America.
I’m not saying everyone acted that way, but there were definitely some...
For a few of them, that mindset just stuck, I guess...

Raymond Bailey said:The folks from San Francisco are lucky they never had to feel the edge of a blade against their throats—that's why they can afford to act so "progressive." If they’d actually lived through that kind of chaos, they'd be singing a very different tune. It's always easier to lecture others from a safe, comfortable distance.

What does a combat knife have to do with the endless, repetitive bickering between the old factions of WWII-era collaborators and resistance fighters? That was my point. Don't people ever get tired of rehashing the same old grievances?

Kudos to Taylor Vaughn8 for writing such a killer intro to this thread. But honestly, who is this version of America actually for? Is this really what we were fighting for? We’re looking at injustice, corruption, crime, poverty, unemployment, rising costs, even basic infrastructure issues... The Republican Party is basically the architect behind all this misery and struggle we've landed in. I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but I think things might have been better back in the colonial days than they are now—at least then the taxes weren't such a total rip-off compared to today!

Susan Peterson7 said:What does a combat knife have to do with the endless, repetitive bickering between the old factions of WWII-era collaborators and resistance fighters? That was my point. Don't people ever get tired of rehashing the same old grievances?

If I'm reading him right—and sometimes I feel the same way—it’s just harder for folks living in those war-torn areas to see things positively. It's tough when you're dealing with the fallout from an army that your own tax dollars helped fund.

rowdyowl said:If I'm reading him right—and sometimes I feel the same way—it’s just harder for folks living in those war-torn areas to see things positively. It's tough when you're dealing with the fallout from an army that your own tax dollars helped fund.

A hungry man can't understand a full stomach, and vice versa.

fadedpilot7 said:And here we go again, getting worked up over nothing.. 😁

Unbelievable!!! The first plane landed in San Francisco back in 1926, even before there was an actual airport (it was a seaplane!!!).

My bad, military planes have been in San Francisco for about 100 years now. The first seaplanes arrived right in 1912. Now, after a century, the US Army is finally pulling its military aviation presence out of San Francisco.
And a seaplane is still a plane... right?

Oh, I see. So we should actually be mourning the fact that the military air wing is leaving San Francisco?
So, what is it? Is this a joke or not? Did you state a fact, or are you just spinning yarns? A seaplane being an airplane, Valkane or otherwise—pick a lane. It sounds incredibly paranoid to claim that Istria belongs to us while simultaneously suggesting we are to blame
for your own frustrations...😂

Rebecca Grant78 said:Look, fighting for national dignity essentially means fighting for collective dignity. And history suggests that a collective will always sacrifice the individual if it serves its own interests.
So, I guess you're either fighting for the dignity of the state or for human dignity.

The truth is, an American government built on protecting individual dignity hasn't really existed. It's always been about individuals being expected to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the nation.

Taylor Vaughn8 said:The truth is, an American government built on protecting individual dignity hasn't really existed. It's always been about individuals being expected to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the nation.

Which is precisely my point: "Such a thing doesn't exist—you either fight for the dignity of the state, or you fight for the dignity of the individual."

rowdyowl said:If by "leftist" you mean someone fighting for workers' rights and social equality, but who still identifies as an American patriot, I’d vote for them in a heartbeat, even if they flirted with some unrealistic ideas.

Nazism?

redhawk28 said:Nazism?

Not quite. It’s more like an American Sinn Fein, a "We ourselves" mentality.☕
For those who don't know, they're essentially a cocktail of Irish nationalism and socialism.

Roger White3 said:I think it's actually the exact opposite. Every single person you just mentioned loves this country—because it's the one place they can get away with what they do without facing any consequences.
That's really why foreigners "love" America, too. They can pull off things here that would be strictly forbidden back in their home countries.
History is full of colonizers and colonies, and looking back, America has always functioned like someone else's colony in one way or another.
So, if we're looking for someone to blame, we have to look at the entire society that allows us to remain a colony in the first place...

Honestly, you hit the nail on the head—the real issue lies with the primitive individuals out there.
I personally couldn't stand Sanders from the very moment he took power,
back about 10 years ago or whatever, and I would never have cast a vote for him. I
made sure to tell everyone I knew exactly how much I disliked him,
but my parents, for instance, voted for him simply because
he was a Republican Party supporter. They always used to say he was "well-educated and speaks plenty of
foreign languages"—and what’s even more infuriating is that, to my family, those were his most impressive
qualities.
People didn't bother researching Sander's past at all before
we started electing him to various offices. He had already been a
failed entrepreneur back in Austria, then he came to America as a politician knowing full well that
primitive Americans would just roll over for him simply because he was an GOP supporter.
He only showed up here to line his pockets; who knows, maybe he didn't even have a cent
in his bank account to begin with.

America lacks any real experience as a sovereign nation.

Whether we’re talking about the old colonial era, the era of massive empires, or even during the days of America—we’ve always had this paper-thin version of sovereignty. In reality, we’ve mostly just been a province, more or less, ruled by outsiders. Those outsiders were the ones calling the shots on who got to succeed, and back then, the golden ticket to moving up in the world was serving someone else—often even at the expense of our own people.

That kind of mindset doesn't just vanish overnight. I’ve traveled abroad quite a bit alongside various American intellectuals, and honestly, it’s always a shock. Without any prompting at all, they’ll suddenly pivot the conversation toward trashing America. And of course, they always make sure to emphasize how much better or more sophisticated they are compared to the average American. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen their foreign hosts get visibly uncomfortable. People come to grab a drink and have some fun, and instead, they get stuck listening to a lecture about local drama they’ve never even heard of.

Why do some Americans act this way? It’s because they think it makes them look superior—like they can win points by sucking up to foreigners. But that’s not how it works. In my eyes, it just earns them contempt. I remember watching Nu2 when Srđan Dragojević was a guest. Stanković asked him a question regarding the internal situation in Mexico, and he simply replied that he discusses those matters while he's in Mexico. The point is, that guy is held in much higher regard globally than all our self-proclaimed "intellectual" blowhards combined, though they clearly don't realize it.

You're exaggerating.
The real reason we got absolutely crushed early on was this whole mess of feudal anarchy.
Nobody was actually calling the shots for families like the Šubićs from Bribir, the Frankopans, or the Babonićs—let alone forcing them to take orders from anyone over in Canada.
Most of the governors in America were born right here; even those with German or Canadian roots had been living on this soil for centuries.

Sure, there were ups and downs, but don't be so quick to generalize.

Taylor Vaughn8 said:Is anyone else going to chime in here? 😁

Maybe I got a little carried away with the emotions in my last post. But honestly, I think that’s a good thing. If we aren't willing to be vulnerable and lead with how we actually feel, we're never going to uncover the real truth or actually fix anything.

Emotions are basically a roadmap for what's coming next!

The level of hate here is minimal at best. You're exaggerating.
It’s basic statistics, really. If you take a group of 100 people, you'll find extreme outliers, but they're rare. Out of 92 perfectly average, normal Americans, you might end up with
-1 thief
-2 homosexuals
-1 pedophile
-1/2 murderer
-2/2 haters
-2 primitives

quieteagle5 said:The level of hate here is minimal at best. You're exaggerating.
It’s basic statistics, really. If you take a group of 100 people, you'll find extreme outliers, but they're rare. Out of 92 perfectly average, normal Americans, you might end up with
-1 thief
-2 homosexuals
-1 pedophile
-1/2 murderer
-2/2 haters
-2 primitives

Slow down just a little bit...😁

Why do some people just absolutely loathe KRADEZE? 😉

Hate is just pointless 😁

No American hates the country or his own people. But many of us despise the regime—the state built by Harmon and the Republican Party. Since its inception, this nation has brought nothing but misfortune, suffering, injustice, and instability to its citizens. Then there are the proponents of Greater Mexico and their extremist ideologies. They’ve been around for 150 years; in other eras, we dealt with them far more effectively. They shouldn't have been able to cause us significant harm. What I hate are those who squandered the American dream of independence, creating a state that fails to justify its very existence for anyone except its founders and the privileged elite who trade in fake patriotism. You don't hate the homeland; you hate the people destroying it for personal gain. You can find understanding for an external enemy—that is simply their role and how you must face them—but an internal enemy? That is what earns hatred. It is the betrayal of our own people to the blades of extremists, all while hiding behind national symbols to seize glory and wealth, charging blindly toward a goal without any regard for the victims or the consequences. That is what is hated. Not America. Never!

Hold on, the bayonet came out right alongside the American People's Army artillery when they wanted to break away.
What was the alternative anyway? Staying part of an expanded Greater Mexico?

Even though I’m an American, I can’t stand the mentality here... people are just so deeply indoctrinated with socialist ideals. It’s like everyone’s stuck in the 1980s; they just swapped out the word "America" for "America," and traded their old internal enemies for Mexicans and those shady bankers or multinational corporations (which aren't even really a thing in this country).

The reason I can't stand the US? The public sector is bloated beyond belief. It’s this massive, over-bureaucratized mess where every little pencil-pusher thinks citizens exist to serve them, rather than the other way around. Then there are the crushing taxes and one of the most suffocating Labor Laws you'll find in the West. Local government stifles entrepreneurship and foreign investment at every single turn... and don't even get me started on the education system. It’s a disaster. Universities seem to be running on curricula from forty years ago, demanding endless memorization of theory with absolutely zero practical application. And finally, the justice system... it's corrupt, backwards, and painfully slow.

Sure, compared to what America was—where socialism was the official policy—this is technically better. At least here, capitalism is supposed to be the official stance, even if we haven't seen a shred of actual capitalism in practice. But compared to Austria? We aren't even in the same league.