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Ego complaint. in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

It may turn out that he isn't actually biased. We are all human and prone to mistakes, so I suppose it’s quite easy for an error to slip in with him, just as it does with me or anyone else... but fundamentally, I don't think he's being subjective.

Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

The first link isn't really an issue since it just addresses the state of society. As for the second one, I feel like it doesn't really break any of the long-standing boundaries we have here on Reddit. Maybe there’s room for some mild criticism—I suppose a moderator should probably maintain a higher level of seriousness and avoid that kind of tone—but that isn't quite enough reason to put someone on public trial. Unfortunately, that seems to have become almost standard practice on this forum. If we actually sanctioned every single post like that, I imagine this place would easily shrink down to about 200 members.

Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

So? 🙄 We aren't on... www.catholics.orgI guess it's either this, or that. www.muslim.com Or on similar sites. A lot of things posted in the "Religion" subreddit could be seen as offensive to various faiths, believers, or churches... but we can't exactly police opinions. If we started sanctioning everything that an individual believer didn't like, this Reddit would probably die within three days. Or it would turn into some sort of church or mosque... where the clergy would just get a standing ovation for everything they say. Our community isn't built like that. And thank God it isn't. You aren't right here, brother.

Tyler Scott3
here a user is being insulted.

That’s post #349. You might have missed that the same user just nine posts ago (back in #340) was threatening the Cosa Nostra (by suggesting they "silently" wipe out homosexuals), here is the link. Given that kind of garbage, it makes sense that someone would call them out, which is what Ethan did, so I don't think his post was offensive.

Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

Even if it was provoked, that post could still be flagged as trolling since it refers to Yivan as a father—so I guess I'll handle it now. My issue with you guys on the subreddit is that you didn't report that post as offensive, yet now you're complaining about why there weren't any consequences. Nobody reported him. Not a single person.

Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

Same as before. That post could also be viewed as trolling. And once again, I have to point out—mostly to you, since you're the one complaining—that you didn't report that post as offensive either. Work together and use the report button to make things easier for us! If we don't take action after that, only then should you complain about a lack of discipline. It isn't our job to monitor every single thing posted; honestly, that's impossible. 🤷

Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

Again, nobody reported it. I just issued a ban a minute ago. Please report inappropriate posts in the future.

Tyler Scott3 said:Hey there.

I won't beat around the bush. Nicole James acts as a moderator on the Religion board and on http://this thread, and she's being incredibly biased.

On this link, she shared her opinion just like any other user, but over here, her language as a moderator is pretty questionable.

Here are some posts from people who haven't been banned for staying civil.

In this one, the Catholic priesthood is being insulted.
Right here, a user is being insulted.
Another user gets insulted here.
And another insult here.
This right is the peak of failed moderation due to targeting users with insults.

If you look at the posts that actually got flagged, they're easy to find in the thread, and most of them come from the opposing side.

The topic is sensitive, sure. But moderating this way just forces the discussion into whatever direction the mod wants, which kills the natural flow of the conversation.

Like I said, I don't want to ramble, so I'm just pointing out the key moments that show she isn't being objective. As a regular user, she’s entitled to her opinion—nobody's disputing that.

Later.🙂

Just to reiterate, please report rude or offensive posts more frequently; I’d really appreciate it if you all did that more often moving forward.

Finally, I only noticed this thread yesterday and finally found a moment today to reply. I am sorry if you have decided to leave; I hope you might reconsider. 🙂 Peace
Who are your favorite moderators, Vasa? in Feedback & Suggestions ·

Yes. 🍿 We're keeping a close eye on all of this... 🥳
Who are your favorite moderators, Vasa? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Grace Wood5 said:
I can't work with this. There isn't enough here to go on. Give me something actual to write about. kaže:
Aaron Harris2, Mirrorball, and that absolute idiot. 😁

And one little extra for Septy, Strilac, and rowdyhawk10!! People... That's intense. They’re doing their jobs right.
Anyway, DD pulled it off at MK. Outstanding job. You have to find that sweet spot between actually handing out punishments, trying to teach someone a lesson—if you can even call it that—and just having a good, loud laugh, which is exactly what every single PDF needs. NT is a solid successor, honestly; he’s just still finding his footing, but... Look. Look, if people are actually going to try and show some basic decency and tact, I only have one question. Since the chat over at LJESa got shut down because of that flood of kids, the MK chat is getting absolutely buried. Can we please just open a separate chat topic for them somewhere outside of the Teens section? They probably think they're grown, but the exact same thing that killed the LJESa chat is happening over at MK right now. Because the thread is constantly flooded with their posts, it’s practically impossible to have a real conversation about anything else. As a result, the regulars aren't even bothering to hang out there anymore—or if they do, they just drop a quick comment and bail until the kids wake up.


I appreciate the support. I suppose I'll try to do even better. 🙂

Andrew Sanchez572 said:1. patientia—well-informed, highly educated, and truly FAIR. She’s genuinely kind and has such a friendly disposition; she simply loves her PDF... a perfect moderator, and quite frankly, a rare breed 👍

2. Katrin—she’s currently active 😍

3. Shady—a mod who doesn't lecture or act superior, stays composed, yet isn't afraid to overturn an unfair decision. There is real potential here. Unfortunately, they are seen much less 🤷

The moderators over at Religion are solid. As a team, they are well-aligned and consistent. Quite impressive, really...


I appreciate the support. I suppose I'll try to do even better. 🙂

Andrew Sanchez572 said:Update:
The top two spots remain unchanged, though rowdyhawk10 has gone a bit downhill—that potential seems to have drifted in the wrong direction. Still, it’s never too late, and I still believe in them... 👍

I would like to do this again, but this time naming names to praise the Religion moderators; Scathach very, very much, and ego just a little less... 🙂

I should also add the Psychology moderators, they absolutely rule... 👍 They are virtually invisible, yet when things go south and they have to issue bans, they do so with such care and fairness...

The Fashion moderators are excellent, too...

Oh, and Fish1968 👍, even if she over-moderates a bit for my personal taste, she is an observant and sensible person who issues warnings before penalties, and she certainly isn't vindictive. In short, she never abuses her position. Truly impressive...

It seems it's only the female moderators that I favor (except for ego, but he has long hair, so perhaps that was the deciding factor, I suppose)... 😁


Thank you for the criticism. I will attempt to improve. 😘
Us vs. Them: The psychology of communication in Philosophy ·
Latest updates on the filmmaker: he’s basically become a laughingstock, and the media is having a field day at his expense. 🙂

Sandra Wilson68 said:I just caught up on this thread, watched the video, and read through all the posts carefully.

Honestly, I've been obsessed for years with this whole "us vs. them" phenomenon—how the world splits itself up by countries, ideologies, political parties, religions, and nations. It's the root of almost every major evil on Earth. You don't have to be a genius to see that these divisions are just a facade used by specific individuals hungry for global power, fame, and material wealth. The only philosophy that matters here is realizing TO. Once regular people finally grasp TO, the world might actually be saved. When ordinary people TO, it'll mean they've realized how pointless it is to argue over the value of any global ideology, politics, religion, or nation. They'll see that clinging to any of those labels is useless because it doesn't benefit humanity, nor does it serve God; it only serves those bloated global elites at the top of these divides. They view their followers as nothing more than a flock of sheep meant to be sheared and slaughtered.

Seriously, what's the point of the Bible, or spreading any religion to rule the world in the name of some higher power? Get real, people! It's just inviting the devil to your doorstep and nothing else. If you've joined a "philosophy" forum, show at least a little bit of philosophical depth—meaning, learn to distance yourself from all this nonsense and think for yourself, instead of acting manipulated and playing ”interpreter by trying to defend one side or another. Just look at what David says:

DAVID,
P.S. A translation of the Bible isn't enough to understand the message of a specific verse. You need interpretation. A translation isn't an interpretation. God interprets the verses for chosen leaders. (These could even be ordinary people who have reached high spiritual levels). Others who try to penetrate the meaning of a verse without divine inspiration end up falling into various traps. Some of those traps include the extremists the film refers to.

What kind of ”interpreters in high positions” are you talking about, David? Watch your mouth: “God interprets the verses for chosen leaders”. Which God? Where is this God, David? Show him to us or at least explain him. Explain how we're supposed to know which one God actually chose among the countless ”“interpreters in high positions” (of the Bible or other texts), since everyone interprets things their own way. It's obvious He didn't choose all of them, because if He had, they would all interpret things the exact same way, not differently. And I'm really curious if you and Shaun are among those ”chosen interpreters in high positions”, since I see you two interpreting religious texts and spreading faith online for years now?

Don't get mad at me and think I'm representing some global ideology, nation, or religion against any faith. This is my personal, philosophical conviction that applies equally to every group and division in the world. That said, when it comes to Islamic culture, I've studied it for a long time and appreciate its ethics and worldview quite a bit. I'd love to see the Western world adopt some of that culture and ethics, provided that part of it is stripped of all religious dogma.

Just a heads-up: don't assume that because of everything I've said, I'm an ”unbeliever”, or an atheist, or one of those people that religion needs to ”settle scores with”. I know God exists, and I know who and what He is, but I don't belong to any religion. The God I know doesn't want any divisions or religions in this world. Even if we assume the Bible and other texts are from God—that Jesus and Muhammad were..."interpreters" of God's thoughts—and yeah, you're right, those interpretations weren't meant for Christians or Muslims either, because back during their "interpretation" phase, neither group even existed. These "interpretations" were intended for all humanity as a study of good and evil, or just pure philosophy. The fact that people later split apart over these "interpretations"—leading to freezing tensions and wars—that isn't from God, it's from the devil. The whole "divide and conquer" mantra doesn't come from God; it comes from the devil. Anyone keeping that division alive today through organized religion isn't serving God—they're serving the devil. Specifically, they're serving the West. That’s the main playbook and strategy for the West today. Using that tactic, the West uses its ideology called "democracy" to take over the world step by step. First, they pit naive, divided nations and religions against each other, provoking them until they fight, go to war, and bleed each other dry. Then, they can just stroll into the territory as "saviors and judges" and take total control.

It's all just a power grab, my friends. It's about global material wealth and treating people like fools. Every single political, national, and religious leader does this—some more successfully than others—and that is their only goal. Everyone else who takes their side, supports them, or defends their faith—meaning their "interpretations" or ideologies—is either incredibly naive and doesn't get what's actually happening, or they're part of the inner circle, acting like co-conspirators to reap some material profit. There is no third explanation.

As for the movie, any religion could make one just like it, filled with authentic footage like decapitations and other gore, and use it as propaganda against any other religion. Every single one of them has left behind a massive, filthy, and bloody criminal record throughout history.

Peace.

God is the Creator. I mean, how could the world even exist without Him? We might not be able to see Him, but logically, one could argue that everything transient must have a cause rooted in something timeless. But, I suppose that isn't really the point here, and this forum isn't quite the right place for those kinds of debates. Maybe head over to the religion section and ask whatever you like; people there will likely try their best to give you some answers.

Sandra Wilson68 said:I just caught up on this thread, watched the video, and read through all the posts carefully.

Honestly, I've been obsessed for years with this whole "us vs. them" phenomenon—how the world splits itself up by countries, ideologies, political parties, religions, and nations. It's the root of almost every major evil on Earth. You don't have to be a genius to see that these divisions are just a facade used by specific individuals hungry for global power, fame, and material wealth. The only philosophy that matters here is realizing TO. Once regular people finally grasp TO, the world might actually be saved. When ordinary people TO, it'll mean they've realized how pointless it is to argue over the value of any global ideology, politics, religion, or nation. They'll see that clinging to any of those labels is useless because it doesn't benefit humanity, nor does it serve God; it only serves those bloated global elites at the top of these divides. They view their followers as nothing more than a flock of sheep meant to be sheared and slaughtered.

Seriously, what's the point of the Bible, or spreading any religion to rule the world in the name of some higher power? Get real, people! It's just inviting the devil to your doorstep and nothing else. If you've joined a "philosophy" forum, show at least a little bit of philosophical depth—meaning, learn to distance yourself from all this nonsense and think for yourself, instead of acting manipulated and playing ”interpreter by trying to defend one side or another. Just look at what David says:

DAVID,
P.S. A translation of the Bible isn't enough to understand the message of a specific verse. You need interpretation. A translation isn't an interpretation. God interprets the verses for chosen leaders. (These could even be ordinary people who have reached high spiritual levels). Others who try to penetrate the meaning of a verse without divine inspiration end up falling into various traps. Some of those traps include the extremists the film refers to.

What kind of ”interpreters in high positions” are you talking about, David? Watch your mouth: “God interprets the verses for chosen leaders”. Which God? Where is this God, David? Show him to us or at least explain him. Explain how we're supposed to know which one God actually chose among the countless ”“interpreters in high positions” (of the Bible or other texts), since everyone interprets things their own way. It's obvious He didn't choose all of them, because if He had, they would all interpret things the exact same way, not differently. And I'm really curious if you and Shaun are among those ”chosen interpreters in high positions”, since I see you two interpreting religious texts and spreading faith online for years now?

Don't get mad at me and think I'm representing some global ideology, nation, or religion against any faith. This is my personal, philosophical conviction that applies equally to every group and division in the world. That said, when it comes to Islamic culture, I've studied it for a long time and appreciate its ethics and worldview quite a bit. I'd love to see the Western world adopt some of that culture and ethics, provided that part of it is stripped of all religious dogma.

Just a heads-up: don't assume that because of everything I've said, I'm an ”unbeliever”, or an atheist, or one of those people that religion needs to ”settle scores with”. I know God exists, and I know who and what He is, but I don't belong to any religion. The God I know doesn't want any divisions or religions in this world. Even if we assume the Bible and other texts are from God—that Jesus and Muhammad were..."interpreters" of God's thoughts—and yeah, you're right, those interpretations weren't meant for Christians or Muslims either, because back during their "interpretation" phase, neither group even existed. These "interpretations" were intended for all humanity as a study of good and evil, or just pure philosophy. The fact that people later split apart over these "interpretations"—leading to freezing tensions and wars—that isn't from God, it's from the devil. The whole "divide and conquer" mantra doesn't come from God; it comes from the devil. Anyone keeping that division alive today through organized religion isn't serving God—they're serving the devil. Specifically, they're serving the West. That’s the main playbook and strategy for the West today. Using that tactic, the West uses its ideology called "democracy" to take over the world step by step. First, they pit naive, divided nations and religions against each other, provoking them until they fight, go to war, and bleed each other dry. Then, they can just stroll into the territory as "saviors and judges" and take total control.

It's all just a power grab, my friends. It's about global material wealth and treating people like fools. Every single political, national, and religious leader does this—some more successfully than others—and that is their only goal. Everyone else who takes their side, supports them, or defends their faith—meaning their "interpretations" or ideologies—is either incredibly naive and doesn't get what's actually happening, or they're part of the inner circle, acting like co-conspirators to reap some material profit. There is no third explanation.

As for the movie, any religion could make one just like it, filled with authentic footage like decapitations and other gore, and use it as propaganda against any other religion. Every single one of them has left behind a massive, filthy, and bloody criminal record throughout history.

Peace.

Sandra Wilson68, you haven't changed much in the last few years. Everyone moves forward eventually; you should try to do the same. Best, 🙂
Us vs. Them: The psychology of communication in Philosophy ·
I suspect the core issue within this "us versus them" dynamic is that those at the top rarely speak up, or if they do, it’s barely anything at all. Average, well-meaning believers—whether Christian or Muslim—usually find plenty of common ground, shared interests, and reasons to be friends. But the leadership? Those soul hunters... they don't seem particularly interested in actual connection or dialogue. 😢 Even when they do meet and release some sugary, sweet-sounding joint statement for the cameras, you’re left with this bitter feeling that it was all just empty courtesy, with very little sincerity or heart behind it. At its essence, the failure of interfaith dialogue is simply a matter of the clergy being unwilling to actually engage and move closer to one another. 🤷
Us vs. Them: The psychology of communication in Philosophy ·
Kenneth Peterson5,
I followed that old thread regarding the two of you back in the day, and I came away with a pretty sour impression of Muhammad. The whole debate centered on whether he was being hypocritical; I became fully convinced that he was, and I felt for you because of the incredibly difficult situation you found yourself in. I am glad to see you've moved past all that. However, even though my opinion of him hasn't changed, I have to admit that Muhammad actually spoke the truth in the specific instance you just mentioned. Here is why I think he’s right: if someone trusts a friend solely based on the fact that they are Muslim, they probably don't have any real friends, nor are they acting as a true friend to anyone else. That might constitute an alliance or an association, but it certainly isn't friendship. True friendship—much like genuine love, for that matter—doesn't depend on what someone believes.

As for that thesis... it's flawed, mostly because I make a distinction between being a believer and being a member of a specific church. Personally, I view Christianity today primarily as an institutionalized delusion. You are far more likely to find true devotion to Jesus anywhere else than within various church denominations. To me, following Jesus means—and it has always meant this—speaking nothing but the truth, doing good, and avoiding evil. Those people making the film are only as Christian as the Muslims or the terrorists depicted in it who are decapitating poor souls. 😢 Best regards,
Us vs. Them: The psychology of communication in Philosophy ·
swiftcobra15 said:I saw how the movie ended, and now it's obvious to me that the directors have an agenda.
They're basically conflating Islam with Islamism—extremism and terrorism.
That said, I still believe any reasonable person can read between the lines:
Terrorists are always a tiny minority, yet they constantly claim to act on behalf of Islam.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Christians." Are you referring to believers?
Regardless, we're talking about representatives of Western ("Christian") civilization
and those defending the privileges of the wealthy West at the expense of everyone else.

The core issue remains how the Muslim majority deals with
that extremist, terrorist minority claiming to speak for all Muslims.
Because regardless of any bias in the film, Islamist terrorists are a real and dangerous reality.
Best regards! 🙂

I suppose it’s a good thing this is becoming apparent now, and I can only hope that most people in the Netherlands (and throughout Europe) will also recognize the questionable intentions behind this film.

swiftcobra15 said:I saw how the movie ended, and now it's obvious to me that the directors have an agenda.
They're basically conflating Islam with Islamism—extremism and terrorism.
That said, I still believe any reasonable person can read between the lines:
Terrorists are always a tiny minority, yet they constantly claim to act on behalf of Islam.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Christians." Are you referring to believers?
Regardless, we're talking about representatives of Western ("Christian") civilization
and those defending the privileges of the wealthy West at the expense of everyone else.

The core issue remains how the Muslim majority deals with
that extremist, terrorist minority claiming to speak for all Muslims.
Because regardless of any bias in the film, Islamist terrorists are a real and dangerous reality.
Best regards! 🙂

Terrorists are indeed always a minority... and I guess regular people don't want to get involved; they probably fear standing up to them because these groups are often armed, dangerous... and, quite frankly, frequently backed by the West itself. I would argue that major Western media outlets give massive amounts of airtime to non-institutional bandits—terrorists like Ayman al-Zawahiri, who aren't even legitimate representatives—instead of giving that space to legal, institutionalized Muslim leaders, such as a Sheikh or an Imam. It’s actually the opposite. Most coverage is given to bottom-feeders like Amr Moussa, Osama bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, or Ayman al-Zawahiri. These Western media outlets seem to prefer quoting those types over, say, a Sheikh or a professor at an Islamic university. That’s why this false impression is created. It suits them, I suppose, to present Islam this way; it serves whoever is paying for these reports.

And true believers among Muslims, unfortunately, lack the means to hold them accountable, since they aren't even permitted to be near the halls of power. A prime example is Algeria, where the principles of parliamentarianism and democracy have been flagrantly violated. But it’s much the same in other Muslim nations: Egypt, Libya, Iraq... where the people in power are those installed by the USA and the West, rather than those the people and the faithful actually desire.

swiftcobra15 said:I saw how the movie ended, and now it's obvious to me that the directors have an agenda.
They're basically conflating Islam with Islamism—extremism and terrorism.
That said, I still believe any reasonable person can read between the lines:
Terrorists are always a tiny minority, yet they constantly claim to act on behalf of Islam.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Christians." Are you referring to believers?
Regardless, we're talking about representatives of Western ("Christian") civilization
and those defending the privileges of the wealthy West at the expense of everyone else.

The core issue remains how the Muslim majority deals with
that extremist, terrorist minority claiming to speak for all Muslims.
Because regardless of any bias in the film, Islamist terrorists are a real and dangerous reality.
Best regards! 🙂

True believers among Christians are much like true believers among Muslims... they are cultured, polite, and don't harbor hatred or lie. A commonality today is that "others" often speak ill of them in their name. However, there is a stark difference: in the West, bad actors abuse power, commissioning films like this in the name of Christianity just to gain new legitimacy for their colonialist policies in the Muslim world. And sadly, even believers among Christians often fall for it. The difference lies in the fact that European societies are wealthy and socially organized... while Christians are constantly fed certain fairy tales through the church and the media so that they don't realize what is actually being done in their name.

swiftcobra15 said:I saw how the movie ended, and now it's obvious to me that the directors have an agenda.
They're basically conflating Islam with Islamism—extremism and terrorism.
That said, I still believe any reasonable person can read between the lines:
Terrorists are always a tiny minority, yet they constantly claim to act on behalf of Islam.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Christians." Are you referring to believers?
Regardless, we're talking about representatives of Western ("Christian") civilization
and those defending the privileges of the wealthy West at the expense of everyone else.

The core issue remains how the Muslim majority deals with
that extremist, terrorist minority claiming to speak for all Muslims.
Because regardless of any bias in the film, Islamist terrorists are a real and dangerous reality.
Best regards! 🙂

I suppose I’ve already mentioned that the majority lacks the tools to prevent this. In most Muslim societies, the government is essentially disconnected from the people and the faithful by default... But, what can we Americans do in cities like Chicago, Detroit, or New York? Perhaps that is an interesting question to ask. We aren't out here in the States slaughtering people on live TV, blowing up railways, or hijacking planes. I don't think I can be held responsible for the actions of some madman in Spain or Afghanistan, someone about whom I know nothing—neither who raised him during his childhood nor who is paying him to commit such atrocities... I feel sorry that such figures exist among Muslims; if I had the power, I would eliminate them instantly, but I simply don't have that capacity. 🤷 Regards
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rustymaker5 said:Now we’re just going to end up acting like grammar is the deciding factor for extremism, and pretending that most Muslims are all peaceful and tolerant toward non-believers... I’d really love to see how those supposedly tolerant folks would actually behave during a mass uprising in Western nations, which they find so alien, ugly, and religiously intolerant to begin with. "To hell with freedom" is just such a terrifying message.

Well, I suppose one shouldn't overlook the sheer force behind these fabrications. 🙂

rustymaker5 said:Now we’re just going to end up acting like grammar is the deciding factor for extremism, and pretending that most Muslims are all peaceful and tolerant toward non-believers... I’d really love to see how those supposedly tolerant folks would actually behave during a mass uprising in Western nations, which they find so alien, ugly, and religiously intolerant to begin with. "To hell with freedom" is just such a terrifying message.

Yes, my contention is that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, and that this trash attempting to discredit them represents a tiny minority, often funded by non-Islamic sources—specifically those who benefit from such broad generalizations about Muslims.

I suppose the most constructive thing we can do here is to take the points raised in the film and break them down individually to show what is actually happening. If there are questions regarding any specific detail from the documentary, please feel free to ask... I will try to provide some answers. Best regards to everyone.
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swiftcobra15 said:I watched a little over half the movie, and honestly, I think I've seen enough.
Quotes can be incredibly brutal, but you'd find even darker stuff in the Old Testament.
So, if we’re taking things literally, both the Bible and the Quran could easily serve
as blueprints for the worst kinds of crimes. It all comes down to how you interpret them, though.

Ultimately, my take is that the film isn't attacking Islam itself, but rather those twisted interpretations of the Quran.

I suspect you might be mistaken. 🙂 You really should have watched the entire film to understand that it’s nothing more than blatant mainstream propaganda, where biased half-truths are intentionally amplified. I guess everything in it was just taken out of context—distorted and fundamentally false. 😢 My late father and mother didn't experience Islam quite the way the filmmakers seem to be forcing it upon all Muslims—not that I've seen anyone else pushing back against it. It seems obvious from the footage that the creators intend to manufacture a potent wave of anti-Islamic propaganda in the Netherlands, and throughout Europe as well. It feels almost identical to how Hitler's propagandists stirred up the German people against the Jews. I suppose it's a shame you don't see it that way.

I don't really see the filmmakers as independent thinkers so much as they appear to be quite devout Christians. Perhaps a possible reason for this is that Christianity is currently facing a profound crisis. History seems to be repeating itself; something remarkably similar occurred leading up to the Crusades during the Middle Ages.

swiftcobra15 said:I watched a little over half the movie, and honestly, I think I've seen enough.
Quotes can be incredibly brutal, but you'd find even darker stuff in the Old Testament.
So, if we’re taking things literally, both the Bible and the Quran could easily serve
as blueprints for the worst kinds of crimes. It all comes down to how you interpret them, though.

Ultimately, my take is that the film isn't attacking Islam itself, but rather those twisted interpretations of the Quran.

I suppose I agree that the Quran, if twisted through a distorted lens, can serve as a dangerous weapon in the hands of fanatics. However, I find myself disagreeing with the assessment that the citations themselves are inherently malicious. Warfare has its own logic, governed by established principles of honor and chivalry. It seems to me that you might be viewing these "vicious passages" outside of their original context—which was precisely the intention of the authors of this propaganda pamphlet and hate generator: to package them in such a way. If there is a genuine desire for dialogue, I am willing to address your questions regarding these (or any other) verses of the Quran, in good faith, to demonstrate that they do not contain the malice that certain bad actors attempt to project onto them.

swiftcobra15 said:I watched a little over half the movie, and honestly, I think I've seen enough.
Quotes can be incredibly brutal, but you'd find even darker stuff in the Old Testament.
So, if we’re taking things literally, both the Bible and the Quran could easily serve
as blueprints for the worst kinds of crimes. It all comes down to how you interpret them, though.

Ultimately, my take is that the film isn't attacking Islam itself, but rather those twisted interpretations of the Quran.

No, I don't think that holds up. If the director hadn't intended to take this specific angle, they would have likely included some nuance or offered an objective perspective—perhaps even a positive example to balance things out, wouldn't they? Instead, everything is framed in such a dark, one-sided light. Because the content feels so biased and skewed, I’d say the film is fundamentally aimed at Islam and Muslims as a whole. If the filmmaker truly wanted to be objective and focus solely on terrorism, they wouldn't go out of their way to cast such broad strokes against the entire religion. To my mind, the creator's message is quite clear, and you can see it plainly in the final moments of the film if you bother to watch it.

The most distasteful and manipulative part of this movie occurs halfway through, when they show an image of a mother holding a child with a bloody head, attempting to frame it as "THE FUTURE OF ISLAM IN THE NETHERLANDS" 😲 In reality, that image depicts a specific ritual practiced by certain Shia groups where children undergo bloodletting on the day of Ashura, marking the martyrdom of Hussein (and mind you, Shias make up less than 10 percent of the Muslim population). I should also mention, since that’s how the film kicks off—that it claims the 9/11 attacks at the World Trade Center were actually a false flag operation involving suicide bombings orchestrated by the US administration (much like the anthrax attacks) specifically to shift the blame onto Islam. Best,
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cp.tar said:If you actually heard this with your own ears or have witnesses to back it up, you should report him to the Bishop for violating the seal of confession.[/I][/COLOR]
Roy says: But what if the Bishop was in on it too? 😁

It seems unlikely that such a thing could be overheard. It’s mostly just speculation, I suppose. I find it hard to believe that anyone would actually do that.🙄

Pollux
maybe go back to him, but don't answer any of his questions; just request a specific date and time for an appointment.
If he tries to question you about anything, [I]"why?"
just tell him: "it's a private matter."
If your spouse truly doesn't want to see him, then perhaps you should approach his superior and request that he be recused, if that is even possible.
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Anthony Fowler83 said:"It's like, we White people are just built differently than Black people and everyone else; this kind of work just isn't for us."

I suppose we aren't actually any different from anyone else.
rowdyhawk10 said:Just for those paying attention: (!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU

Nathan Doyle3; said:He certainly doesn't mince words. An excellent speech! 👍

Gary Wilson; said:Anyone with sense knows this, even those siding with the occupiers who are just playing dumb. (George Galloway). 👍

If there were more people this brave in the world, I suppose much less blood would be spilled across the earth.
I wonder, how long might it take for Mossad to pay him a visit "on the job"? 🙄
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Dunja said:That’s really all they want—for Israel to just be a normal country like any other. I’ve been trying to explain this to our local anti-Zionists for years... that Israel isn't somehow worse than all those other nations whose existence nobody even questions.

To back up those peaceful sentiments, here is a link for you, Dunja:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU
It features a member of the British Parliament speaking. (it includes subtitles, too!)

You might have to wait a moment if your connection is slow. Please, take a look. 🙂
For those paying attention: (!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU

😎
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You really should take my word for it, hiddengardener84.

I suppose, at the end of the day, a human being is essentially just a messy collection of flaws. The only true exceptions are those rare individuals capable of loving others even when they are fundamentally different from themselves—though such people are few and far between, usually dismissed as nothing more than eccentrics or dreamers.

If you’re looking to find common ground, perhaps try being less preoccupied with Jews; after all, not every single one of them is a Zionist, nor does everyone support their government's policies, and Zionism certainly isn't the sole source of evil in this world. Maybe start by writing something positive, anything at all, regarding Jews, and I think you'll find it feels as refreshing as an ice-cold Coca-Cola. 😉
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slyviper47 said:Which thread are you even going to pop up in??? It’s quite strange. You seem to be dreaming about Theodor Herzl... you can't live without him!

Right.. I just adore him—Hitler, Maddox, Pavelić, Osama bin Laden.. I simply couldn't exist without all of them. 🙂

slyviper47 said:Maybe you should speak up when so-called Muslim countries do the exact same thing to their own teenagers?.... That wouldn't go so well, would it? 😬

I don't see myself that way. But, if that's how you perceive me, then so be it. I suppose you're entitled to your opinion. You have every right to view us all as being the same. You also have the right to claim that Islamic intolerance is the sole issue with this forum. That is entirely your prerogative. 🙂

Actually, Muslim nations are filled with such prisons, and we aren't just talking about a few adolescents, but thousands of young people... though perhaps that doesn't suit your narrative, so it might be better if I don't mention it, lest I offend you.

Regarding the Zionist state, the whole thing seems like a farce to me; on one hand, they arrest a couple of kid Nazis, while on the other, the entire state is built on Nazi foundations.. the military, the police.. even the government itself. (A number of rabbis and Jewish philosophers confirmed this at a recent conference on the Holocaust in Iran).

My dear Simon, you would only need a tiny bit of hearing and sight to notice the behavior of the Jewish Nazis on this forum (people like Umpe, Collins, Ramb, and those types). You clearly lack even that small amount, though I suppose you compensate for it by paying such special attention to "us providers."

Did you not watch the video above? 🙄
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slyviper47 said:this might be pure insanity if it weren't so tragic... young Jewish men identifying with the very ideologues who sought their destruction

It isn't exactly unprecedented. I suppose you remember Theodor Herzl, don't you? 🙄

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSAvaYY-y7Q
Might be worth watching. 🙂
Scott Brooks10 analogfalcon38 said:Are we talking about those slippery American types again? I wonder if they're the same ones who stepped in to protect Muslims in Canada from the Mexicans. 🤔

It isn't just happening in Canada, either—it’s also going on in Mexico. But I guess analogfalcon38 isn't around to give you an answer.
I'm also curious to see how he responds to that question. 🙄
boldgardener93 said:I mean, you’re probably just annoyed because when Ump posts something, there’s really no way to argue against it.🤣

Dispute? I'm not sure why it wouldn't be possible. It certainly could be. 😁
But... someone might take that the wrong way. Perhaps a different word would be better.

The funny part comes when the expert is asked: "what is Al-Qaeda?". The reply is "Al-Qaeda is the terrorism network that US intelligence officers says is operated by Moss..., ehm, Osama bin Laden".
http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x1...at-is-al-qaeda

Haha, what an absolute degenerate. 😍 I should probably post this over at www.loosechange911.com
It’s hardly surprising that rowdyhawk10 is always the one dropping these kinds of "news" stories on this forum, though the sheer stupidity of Homo sapiens is almost funny at this point. 😁

The individual who "confessed everything from A to Z" did the smartest thing possible for his own sake. Personally, even if I had nothing to do with 9/11, I would have confessed everything too. Once you find yourself stuck in Guantanamo Bay being interrogated without any international oversight or moral boundaries, a confession and an electric chair start looking like a mercy.

Oops, what are we going to do about all the conspiracy theories now?

This news doesn't debunk conspiracy theories; if anything, it reinforces them. Given that the conditions in Guantanamo Bay involve treating detainees illegally—violating every international convention through torture, humiliation, sexual assault, and murder—any confession obtained there wouldn't hold up in court anyway. If someone actually wants to learn about the conspiracies, they should check out www.loosechange911.com. It presents countless valid arguments proving that the U.S. administration was behind 9/11 (just like they were behind the Anthrax attacks, lest we forget!). 9/11 was essentially a self-inflicted wound orchestrated by the U.S. government against its own people.