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madmax3 said:There was this massive communist star and hammer and sickle thing right across the whole wall...😁 ,
It eventually faded away. Nobody bothered to touch it up.😁
Forget the old symbols and all that junk...
Let the local crews get to work there...
Just don't want to provoke some clown from Chicago...
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Keith James812 said:Oh, how lovely. 😁
Next time you should just show up in August, and we can all enjoy a nice barefoot hike out to Blue 😁. After about twenty miles, I bet those little Catholic prejudices of yours will just vanish into thin air. 😁 😁 😁
Good grief. 19 miles?! You think something nurtured for that long just evaporates after a bit of drizzle 19 miles?!
Look, those slabs survived a ten-year dictatorship. Do you really think I’d snap after a thirty-minute light jog on my knees? I wouldn't dream of embarrassing myself in front of the crew hanging out on the walls of those downtown Chicago buildings...
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frčlopir said:God, it’s exhausting. You can't even step out for a private moment on a quiet road in California without some self-proclaimed national hero or "martyr" staring you down from a pedestal. Was this ever actually a functional country? Everywhere someone managed to pull off a stunt, they got a monument. If they didn't? They just invented a reason to build one anyway...
So, go ahead. Go pay your respects to a pioneer or a hero. It's fine, right? No shame in bragging in front of a hunk of granite or a scrap of metal. It’s basically the same as taking a shower after a football game...
But if you had to look into the eyes of, say, a local legend or some anonymous veteran from the old days... well, that's a different story entirely. Even sixty years ago, people knew exactly what was real and what was just theater...😁
Keith James812 said:Wait... I missed something in that post... oh right: "Hena Erceg and Viktor Ivančić... you two are absolute liars."😁
Hena?!... Viktor?!?!.. who?!?!?!
Alright, you bright young minds, let me just say this: all those right-wing fantasies and left-wing grievances about Miami being some kind of playground for conservative conquistadors? Pure fiction. Total nonsense.
Look, it’s embarrassing to admit, but I actually set foot in Miami for the first time a few days ago. For real. Don't ask. All these years, I’ve stuck to the Keys, maybe a quick stop in Savannah or Charleston. I’ve only ever passed through Miami. And now? I actually feel bad that it couldn't be any other way!
Work dragged me down there, though. Just passing through. I had maybe ninety minutes of free time...
I started out in South Beach—had some great, cheap food, much better than those overpriced ravioli spots back in Chicago—and headed toward the market and the historic district...
And then what?
Just a few hundred yards from the Chase Bank skyscraper, sitting right there on the plaza near that massive Wells Fargo building...
On the corner... a stone memorial plaque... dedicated to the glory and bravery of the soldiers under the legendary Captain Miller!!!... Pristine... spotless... beautiful in its own way, just like a fitting tribute to the brightest achievements of the American people!
I kept walking toward the market, thinking: "Must be a fluke... ignore it... the plaque is too big to be anything but a coincidence..." I calmed myself down with a serving of excellent dried figs... walked into the historic district... stepped out in front of the old cathedral, right next to that ultra-modern glass monstrosity... looked up at the old stone building with the gorgeous cornices...
And—NO!!! Right next to the cornices...
Freshly cleaned and scrubbed!!!
A plaque!!!
About 60 years ago, just two steps away from where I stood, a 17-year-old hero fell to a collaborator's bullet...
No. I'm dreaming. It's an illusion... how? Who? Why? No, it must be those damn figs... hallucinations... get it together...
I step out onto the street... wow, what architecture! What gargoyles!
The church. Right by the entrance!!!
AAARGH!!!
One meter by 0.8 meters!!!
I don't even want to read it... all I see is a five-pointed star... a list of names... "Fascists... execution... glory... memorial..." I can feel the sweat breaking out...
A bit further down... toward the waterfront plaza... right at eye level... "Historical meeting of the local committee"... I won't read the rest... probably some resistance group stuff...
"Leaflet printing... ambush... fascists... dead..." Give me a break!
I have to get out of this city!!
Ti-ri-di-ri. Ti-ri-di-ri. Twilight Zone.
"He was young and naive. Full of prejudices and fears. One day he left for Miami... on a trip after which... things would... never... be... the same again..."
AAAAAH! Graffiti! "Death to Thompson." And right next to it, another star! A red one!
UNBELIEVABLE! "Young insurgents..."
"Get lost, idiots."
"Smokers" (Mine! Mine! This is my topic!!!)
Further on... some metal trash can. Next to a small monument... the head of some aristocrat... a wreath!!!
No, I'm leaving. This isn't right... surely my wife cooked something up... she was staring into her crystal ball and knew I was coming and prepared a trap... to blind me...
I need to check with headquarters... surely they wouldn't leave a Square of Victims like this?!
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The topic title was "fuse," so I’m not really sure why you guys are changing it... 👎
Sure, it’s "Fire Mountain," but I couldn't help laughing at that "consistent" translation... 😁
If this was already the topic, my bad. I just wanted to reiterate a thought I've held for a long time—one that keeps surfacing on this subforum: after we were completely fleeced by the guys across the border (who were milking us long before the '90s), now we're being outpaced by the Americans (not exactly a shocker)...
It’s "Fire Mountain"—purely American style. Naive, stripped down to the core, simple. It doesn't shove heavy-handed philosophy down your throat in every single sentence. And most importantly? It doesn't force those "ancient" truths about eternal guilt and eternal innocence.
Of course, it’s impossible not to feel a certain way when you look back at all the suffering this country has endured... You should always be able to call things by their real names, sure. But to center your entire life philosophy, every waking moment, and every breath around these petty divisions that should have lasted until Judgment Day? That’s something only a total hack could do. 😉 And frankly, if we're being honest, those hacks haven't suffered nearly as much as some actual filmmakers who were right in the thick of it, feeling the weight of their own stories firsthand. Not that it matters for the record.
Regardless, credit where it's due. It shifts between sadness and melancholy, then moves into joy and hope, without ever disrespecting anyone's memory or pain...
Now that we've practically claimed the Oscar success of that "Nice country" film as our own, maybe we should just leave this one alone. Or perhaps we should wait until it wins something at a more prestigious festival first... 🙂
Man, listen.
I see how it is. It’s late, I’ve had a few drinks, and suddenly the stream of consciousness just takes over. You start thinking you’re absolutely right, perfectly logical. From your perspective—and honestly, from the perspective of every other idiot out there—you probably are.
But maybe it's just too narrow to look at the whole picture of what Frontline Assembly actually was. Maybe one single "wrong note" doesn't ruin the entire symphony... no harm done, right? 😉
Leeb and Cey split up because of those mysterious "creative differences or limitations." Between us, Cey always loved to experiment, while Leeb wasn't really built that way. Plus, as Agyar once explained on here, when Leeb first got into SP, he was musically and "technologically" illiterate. Still, he was always stomping around in the front row at every SP show, which is how he ended up getting sucked into the SP scene. Agyar, if you're still around, set me straight if I've got this wrong: 😁
And Cey? He was a god, obviously. To him, SP "weren't playing industrial, they invented it!" 🙂 That’s why the whole thing smells like Leeb's insecurities to me...
Nowadays, with stuff like Fruity Loops v. 3.0 (which is killer!) and a bunch of electronic nuances I don't even understand, you could whip up a soundtrack for something like "Matrix 4" that might actually beat the third one. By the way, I think someone from Juno Reactor worked on that. Damn, there are certain bands I always hesitate on—one hand holding a genius electro compilation, the other a Juno or maybe Das Ich (really feeling bad for the latter today).
Back then, anything using electrons without wasting them on guitars was considered weird, or at least by the mainstream and "other" crowds. SP was, without exaggeration, a global drug. Something similar was started by EBM pioneers in Europe, specifically Germany.
Generally speaking, people say everything back then was different than it is now. And looking back at old tracks like "Rhythms" or "Heroine" tells me the same thing...
New Wave was deeply rooted in a subculture that wasn't any less "out there" than what we have today. Everything that followed for years after enjoyed massive interest and approval. What other reason would SP have to tour some random agricultural country in the States back in '88?
Today, "alternative," "indie," and "independent" are basically synonymous with everything else.
I don't want to sound like a total fascist, but the distinction today is more desirable than ever. It means we finally get rid of those teen magazines that give you a ten-step guide on how to look like a goth, a punk, a raver, or a prep. And the absurdity of seeing someone like Mansun and Eminem sharing the same stage at the same time is just unbearable...
It all kills taste. It fuels this mindless "collector" mentality without being able to tell actual quality from garbage. If you scroll through this forum, you'll run into "horizons" so wide even the Dalai Lama couldn't span them. And they say he has a higher level of consciousness than most people on Earth...
People just swallow everything. You don't have to be closed off, of course, but it feels like global standards have just tanked...
Look, there are universal measures in life.
The same applies to music, which defines FLA as the forefathers of their genre. I didn't make that up, either; it was the big-shot critics at NME who were so captivated by the 80s indie scene that they put the FLA album "Gashed Senses and Crossfire" center stage. Along with "Caustic Grip," as I mentioned, FLA was placed alongside the most influential bands of the 80s. Obviously, in the same category as Jesus and Mary Chain or Pixies, not ABBA or Gazebo... 😉
It’s not for nothing that David Lynch likes them, alongside 242 and Manson (I'm not just blowing my own trumpet, am I?)😉 ), called them a "really interesting band." Even Cronenberg put them in the lineup for "Crash." 😉
It doesn't necessarily mean much, especially when paired with any other random chart qualification, but hey, it sounds great! 😉 Especially for me, seeing how everything else just goes straight to hell...
Look, Walter Adams60, my friend, there's no point in being narrow-minded—whether it's music, movies (I mean, what can I do if I don't get Bergman?! 😁), or those "heavier" topics like anything falling under national or religious frameworks. Regarding this forum, I get the "politicians," but even in the "parents and kids" sections, I run into gems who try to teach innocent American kids to hate? Honestly, it all goes to hell! Just look at this guy J...
I still feel like I need to apologize to the rest of the forum members because of this "two-person" setup. It felt inappropriate to reach out to Walter Adams60 via the provided email. Maybe I was hoping to attract some young guys to "our cause"... and I'm sure Walter Adams60 had similar intentions... 😉
Where is Cody?! 😉
Walter Adams60 said:That collection of music videos on VHS is genuinely haunting, especially that "Killing gama" video.
Yeah, absolutely.
I guess this isn't exactly the MTV Metal forum after all...
Maybe calling Suicide Commando or the FLA stuff "trash" is a bit harsh. Why trash? Fulber and Leeb basically laid the groundwork for the EMB-ELEKTRO-FLA sound. That doesn't automatically make everything they touch a masterpiece, sure, but they definitely left a mark, and that deserves respect. It’s not for nothing that "Caustic Grip" gets cited as one of the top seven EMB/industrial albums ever, and it always shows up on decent alternative best-of lists.
Or are you just a hardcore SP-fan at heart? 😉
Anyway, I really should give this new sound a closer listen. I've grabbed bits and pieces here and there, but sitting down with the full album might tell me more...
I gave up on downloading stuff pretty early on. First impressions seem to be the deciding factor most of the time. For some reason, it never really grabbed me. Either that, or I just wasn't in the right headspace. And money is never an issue, right?
Besides, I can't even remember the last time I actually treated myself to some decent audio...
By the way, were you actually old enough to experience SP and the club scene back in '88? Do you have that VHS?
Susan Nguyen85 said:Goth, Bryan Martin31, you really brought this dead thread back to life. 😲 I found an awesome source for CDs, but they don't have any Skinny Puppy.
Thanks, Bryan Martin31, I'll check out that suggestion 😉
And hey, if you're looking, agyar (where did that guy disappear to?!) might be able to snag you some SP live stuff. He pulls down gigabytes every single day. Heh, I guess that's what happens when you actually work for a real company... 😁
I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm asking for favors, but my guy filled several discs with SP music videos for me, so if you're interested... just maybe don't watch them right after dinner. 😁
As for downloading? Forget about it. Original is original. 😉
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Susan Nguyen85 said:So, I’ve got Last Rights, and honestly, the highlight for me is Killing gama just because of that intro. I’m looking for something even darker than that—does SP have any albums that go deeper into the shadows?
anybody else listening to the older stuff? 😉
Don't judge me, I'm just feeling a bit nostalgic... 😉
Susan,
look, if you're still interested—and I feel like I've told you this a hundred times already—just go with "rabies."
It’s got that "choral one" vibe, which is basically everything those darkwave bands tried to do but never quite nailed. It's the gold standard.
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Kevin Chavez3 said:Look, I’m pretty sure that track never actually made it onto the CD. If you're really that desperate, just find someone to rip it from the vinyl to a computer, clean up the surface noise and pops (CoolEdit handles that perfectly fine), and burn your own disc.
for example Chokebore - plus more
I remember driving through the famous "Arizona" once, and on the way there, I stumbled upon about 40 different local record shops—you know, those guys with their trunks popped open on the curb 🙏 . I’m certain I spotted those light penguins on a CD in one of them...
Nothing much. Next time the opportunity presents itself, I won't pass it up...
If anyone happens to have the means to transfer something from a turntable, let me know. Otherwise, my vinyl is toast thanks to some totally irresponsible guy mishandling that relic...
I’ve already got the vinyl, now I'm hunting for the CD!
thanks!
... does anyone remember those "super easy penguins" from the first half of the '80s?
Thanks!
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Hideaway isn't half bad if you're into that gritty electric guitar sound... 😉
I figured I’d breathe some life back into this thread because I stumbled upon a realization that fits perfectly here.
Basically, that vocalist placebo guy—what was his name again, that hermaphrodite? 🙂—was on MTV a few nights ago saying he hasn't listened to anything lately except trance music (seriously?!).
So, how am I supposed to answer the original poster's question now? 😁
Ray Bradbury said:Bryan Martin31, you legend. Long time no see... looks like we're moving on from the Vuca crowd 😉
Do you have that movie on DVD?
My favorites have to be Forbidden Planet (believe it or not, it stars Leslie Nielsen, but it’s not a parody)... those "monsters of ID" lines... just a totally cool flick.
Then there's Labyrinth with Jennifer Connelly and David Bowie.🙂
And where's Tron? 🙏 🙏
Man, honestly, it feels like ages since that legendary coffee we had last summer... 😉
I don't have it, and I haven't even watched the whole thing. Just two 15-minute stints before I had to head out for a beer... 😁
Everything or nothing.
Music taste generally falls into these categories:
- Trendy. Basically, you can tell exactly how much of a follower they are. 😉 ;
- Accidental. Shaped by whatever happened to be playing on the radio at the time. Less damaging to their psyche or anyone forced to listen to them. 🙂 ;
- Niche. Tells you something about their principles and actual knowledge (unlike those mindless trend-chasers).
- Eclectic. Suggests depth, culture, and an open mind. Or, in some insecure cases, just a total lack of a personality.
- Trash. If they actually know it’s bad? I’m buying them a beer immediately. 😁
- Great. That would be me. 😉
There are other sub-types, but who has the energy to list them all? 😉
Black Onyx said:Personally, out of all those sci-fi flicks starring Charlton Heston, Soylent Green is probably my favorite.
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Ahem...
(trying to distract from my username) Err... uh... whatever. Just moving on.
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