Posts by Bryan Martin31

Douglas Rivera said:So, you're coming back to haunt the mods again...

Oh, look at that. Threats from the moderators! And here I thought we were all friends.

I guess it’s time for me to go reinforce my security...

Bojnik said:What's your problem with the U?

There was nothing but honor and pride in being part of the Nazi military from '41 to '45. Just like there was always honor and pride in defending one's people against Great Mexican hegemony and communist heresy !

The U can go straight to hell! 😬

dustypilot22 said:I wasn't being a Nazi. I wasn't being a Nazi. Period. It's offensive. For the 76,238,751st time on this forum, dustypilot22 says: Period. Nazi Germany was, among other things, a criminal state.

Are you going to ask me this again? 😕 😕

Sure, you weren't being a Nazi, but apparently wearing the insignia was the "only legal way to clearly show national identity back then"?!
I’m agnostic, but right now I’m actually calling on the holy names. Jesus, Mary, help me.

Man, I... I'm just speechless.

Maybe this will enlighten you: if I told you that back in those dark, terrible days, the only legal way for a Mexican from your hometown to show his identity was by wearing specific symbols, you'd probably whine just like you are now. Since showing fascist symbols isn't (yet) illegal in Mexico, your buddy has moved the goalposts; now he gets offended when called a fascist because he thinks that Mexican war criminal Mihajlović was some kind of patriot.

Look, since you've already crossed the line, can we settle this for $333?
Mihajlović and Ante Pavelić were war criminals.
a) yes
b) no

Honestly, I think you and those Royalist types on both sides of the border are exactly the same. That's why when I tried explaining this to you sarcastically a few months ago, I got banned—because the moderator didn't get a thing. And looking at this, it seems you still don't get it either...

Don't take this personally, but your brand of patriotism is toxic, and that's exactly what I'm shoving in your face.
It's toxic because your definition of it—much like how certain "important" figures used to define love for the country—has cost far too much blood and moral decay. So, I won't aim this at you specifically; I'll aim it at the people who dragged you along with them, which is why you're making these mistakes. And you'll keep making them. You'll keep doing it until someone finally knocks some sense into those empty heads where these twisted thoughts are born.

hollowmason4 said:When you're talking about "U," you're basically inseparable from it. You two go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Personally, I think "U" fits much better when you say "u Micka paterina."😁

The Amateur said:😕 😕 😕
E.

What part of this isn't clicking for you?

Me? You think I don't get it? Look, buddy, it’s perfectly clear to me that you've gone full extremist. What's so shocking about that? 😎

The Amateur said:P.S.
By the way, Bryan Martin31, since you went through all that trouble hunting down that text, wouldn't it be helpful to actually drop a link? Just so we can see the context. 😉

You think context is going to bail you out? What kind of "context" would even work here—something to prove you aren't actually an extremist? And are you seriously telling me you're offended by being called one? 😲
You are who you are. I made my peace with it a long time ago. Why haven't you? I have no idea.

Anyway, let's wrap this up so I can see what kind of material you're actually made of.
One quick question for the first round. Try not to mess this up; it would be embarrassing to head back to Los Angeles empty-handed. And money is money... unless I just use my "50:50" joker right now.

So, buddy, was the Third Reich a criminal state?
a) yes
b) no

Take your time.👍

amateur said:Bryan Martin31 says:
as if I’d want to drag some people back to '41 with a Davidic star on their right arm just to bring them back to this forum later...

Who and why? 😕 😕 😕

for example, you:

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07-22-2005, 15:58 #12
amateur
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Registration: August 2004
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mwm says:
Double U

Man...

This brings back memories of my best years... :heavy sadness:

(...) when—it was a shock for me, mind you, because it was my first time ever at a club—the guys in the middle of the dance floor would pull American flags with "socialist symbols" on them from their pockets (because if they didn't, they’d end up in jail—believe it or not), fold them so the "socialist symbols" were hidden, and hoist them high, while others pulled out scraps of paper that read [SIZE=]U[/size]2.

Yeah, exactly like that—a huge U and a tiny little 2.

And the whole club, surrounded by countless flags without those "socialist symbols," with dozens of "U" letters in the air, screaming "With or Without You."

Man...

Those were the days.... :maximum sadness: (👍 op.Bryan Martin31)

And there's one more thing worth mentioning regarding this story...

That "U" next to the number 2 wasn't some symbol supporting the Nazi Germany movement. ( 🤣 op.Bryan Martin31)

It was simply the only possible symbol ( 🤣 op.Bryan Martin31) which, due to the political ban on "national symbols" under the old regime, served as the way to signal American identity back then.

Unfortunately, the only thing that could legally serve as any kind of American symbol ( what American? op.Bryan Martin31) since, for instance, using the "stars and stripes" could get you beaten with wet newspapers in a jail cell.

So, that U2 marked a part of my childhood, and perhaps in a unique way, served as a way to express American pride during those times when the end of America was being sensed.

I hope you can understand that the "U" from the Irish band's name was, unfortunately (and why unfortunately? because it was the only way? because Nazi Germany was a criminal state? or something else? op.Bryan Martin31), the only legal way to clearly show national identity at that time.

Without even a shred of desire or thought toward the movement. (🤣 🤣 🤣 you have some serious issues, Patriot! op.Bryan Martin31)

I know it's hard to explain those times from today's perspective, but that's how it was. (definitely heavy op.Bryan Martin31)

If it isn't clear to anyone—I'm ready to explain through discussion. (everything is clear to me, long ago. just, is it to you? op.Bryan Martin31)

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rambi said:It isn't necessary... abstract reasoning starts developing around age six 😉.

Yeah, sure. In a NORMALLY DEVELOPED society, maybe. Not for certain half-humans out there. For them, I guess that realization only hits right before death... the tunnel... the light... that sudden feeling of meeting something divine... 😁

amateur hack said:Anyway, back to the main point...

What do you make of those sudden outbursts of affection from our young American leftists toward that one gypsy?

The same "progressive" crowd that spent 118 days screaming about how chauvinistic Matthew was, only to start cheering for Daisy just to prove to those right-wingers how tolerant and "urban" they actually are?

Never heard of them. Regardless, whether they're on the left or the right, they've screwed up so badly they should all be rounded up and thrown into some kind of camp. They can try saying that kind of nonsense straight to the face of that 350-pound guy we mentioned earlier...

Like I'd ever send some of the people here back to a concentration camp with a Star of David on their arm, only to let them crawl back onto this forum later...

Well, damn......

amateurish hack said:Fine, I'll give you some motivation.

I'll hand over a grand if you actually find it. 😎

Whoops! Looks like those pensions finally kicked back in, huh? 😁
Better hold onto those few bucks for later... you might actually need them...

graniteowl88 said:The author makes a pretty sharp point here—that Ante Pavelić’s only real North Star was the idea of an independent American state. He wasn't particularly fueled by Mussolini's fascism or Hitler's Nazism.

Nah, not quite. He just used those Nazi blueprints as a convenient tool to wipe out almost an entire people. Or maybe just two groups? Who cares...

Honestly, Pavelić was like that shy kid at school: he just wanted to get what he wanted without making too much noise.

Wait, Nickie?! Nickie Pecinko?!?!!? 👎

Keep it down so Nidzo doesn't hear you!

NIDZO!!! NIDZO PECINA!!

What a disgrace! 😁

Honestly, I'd actually prefer listening to him...

analogseal39 said:Massacres, butchers, and a government peddling fascist propaganda—that’s what I consider the kind of propaganda we were forced to swallow for 45 years...
I’d frame it differently. It was a state trying to dodge certain types of regional dominance, etc., etc. I know plenty about it, but that’s a political discussion, and I’ve already covered my ground there...

Thompson actually sang about those butchers; it’s documented, performed in front of hundreds of witnesses...
Fine, save that for politics. I view that whole era's politics as fascist, but you don't. You're wrong, but hey, live and let live...

analogseal39 said:Maybe even cEvina and Nick would dig Thompson🙂 even if they sampled him... hehehe...

I doubt they’d care for Thompson. His background would probably turn them off, for sure. Because Skinny Puppy, besides being hardcore activists against animal testing and corporate pollution, also preach international, interfaith, and interracial tolerance.
It’s Thompson versus those last three...

analogseal39 said:It wasn't a choice regarding the lyrics; I just listened to them so much in the early nineties that I eventually realized I knew most of the lines by heart... I used to read some of the text off the CD covers and

Yeah, though the vinyl releases were a bit more stripped down... 😉

The web is full of them now, but I still think they're the gold standard.
SP

analogseal39 said:though I have to admit, I listen to Thompson, Skinny Puppy, Doris Day, The Sisters of Mercy, Leather Strip, Eminem, Vomito Negro, The Shamen, and Robbie Williams with the exact same (fanatical 🙂) intensity...

Good grief. 😕 So you’re into both Doris Day and Leather Strip? Look, at least you've realized you're a weirdo, so let's just leave it at that... 😁

analogseal39 said:as for Thompson, I can only conclude one thing (based on my somewhat superficial knowledge): he's a great guy, and his songs are incredibly energetic and sincere. I really dig them... both the lyrics and the melodies... 🙂

Good grief.
😕

It's off-topic, sure, but I wonder how CEVin would react to finding out one of his fans respects his work just as much as someone who sang about riots and called for a state governed by fascist laws and whatnot...

Kudos to you for memorizing those lyrics. It takes effort. Especially if you were actually capable of "downloading" all those CEVin screams back before Google made everything so easy... 🙂

SP are gods, sure, but you? After those posts about Thompson, you’re just acting weird, analogseal39... no offense intended, but you can't drop Thompson and EBM/industrial in the same breath without ending up with nothing but confusion. If you actually consider yourself an electro fan, what else is there to conclude?
😎

The latest album is a must-have for any SP devotee. I've been trying to track down a copy for months now, but no luck. Just don't have the cash right now... 😢

When you're looking at 16 or 17-year-olds facing an unplanned pregnancy, can we honestly say they’re ready for parenthood? Raising a human being is arguably the toughest job on the planet...
If you're hardline against Vacuum-abortus, how do you defend that position when faced with the perfectly reasonable argument that a child, raised in terrible conditions, might end up as a mass murderer, a mental patient, or an addict?
People have a right to shape their own destinies. But if you assume that failing to guide a human being onto the right path can lead to catastrophic, tragic outcomes—shouldn't we side with those kids when they choose an abortion?

Dogmatically defending or screaming against Vacuum-abortus is just foolish. You have to look at this relatively: the circumstances are what actually matter. Not politics, and not religion.

I'm pro-choice. But not at any cost.

Haven't watched it, haven't read up on it either.
So, why the hell is the movie called Gothika?

Nu metal... honestly, who was the absolute genius behind that ridiculous hybrid? Someone needs to take them out back and bury them in a ditch somewhere in New Jersey.😁Thank God, it’s finally on its deathbed.

Al Capone said: hey, hey, listen up:

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There’ll be work... there will be... a split? haha

I mean, obviously. It's always been these internal-external enemies undermining the decent progressive scene.
D:

Al Capone said:

[SIZE=0.5] And now someone actually tries to tell me that not all architects are gay! 🙂[/SIZE]

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they aren't. there are even premieres... .D

Keith James812 said:What government fear? 😁 I honestly thought you finally got the hint... but whatever, at least you managed to get some sun. 😁

Yeah, my face definitely caught some rays. And it was a pleasant surprise... though it's funny how even four years under the "Biden administration" didn't do much good for my heroes...
😛