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Signature - when will the mods agree before they lose it? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Amanda Booth42 said:Come on, feralgardener362, why don't you go back and read it one more time? Or better yet, just ask Sam Green73 about my signature and the whole debate we had over it.

Look, we were talking about how many lines of text were showing up on my tiny little screen—it was definitely more than three.
Since you wouldn't believe me, I just decided to drop it. It wasn't worth the headache.
If you look right here, you can see exactly which links in my signature are causing all this drama.
But hey, we weren't even actually discussing the links themselves.

p.s. That whole "who cares about the page content" line you used? Pretty clever move to change the subject.👍 Total classic.
Should Obama be allowed to call himself a "Yugoslav"? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I really am an idiot.
I didn't even give you points just to avoid banning you, yet here you are, starting a whole new thread about permanent bans.

Bringing up a guy who won over 60 percent of the vote in an actual, serious debate is nothing short of trolling—if not outright disrespectful.

Am I reading this wrong?
Or maybe you just think being Yugoslav is all it's cracked up to be?

p.s.
Another thread about the Communist Party. Great.
Are we all just pretending to be oblivious now?
crimsonhound80 said:
Sam Green73 Asks:

Look, you really didn't need to go that far with the labeling—it wasn't necessary, honestly. If you're going to make an accusation like that, maybe just show me what actual constructive writing looks like? You know, provide a real example of how to communicate without resorting to insults... I guess it wouldn't kill you to try.

Wait, are we seriously at the point where calling someone a leftist is considered some kind of slur? I mean, come on—is that really where we've landed? It’s getting to the point where you can barely breathe without someone accusing you of being politically incorrect or whatever the hell they're calling it these days. I guess people have become so incredibly thin-skinned that basic political labels feel like a personal attack—it's honestly exhausting! If labeling someone based on their actual leanings is an insult now, then what's next? Are we going to start apologizing for having an opinion entirely? It feels like we're walking on eggshells just to avoid offending someone's delicate sensibilities, and frankly, it's driving me up the wall.

So, what’s your take on all this? What are you actually thinking?

I’m reading here that you—unbelievably—don't even grasp the point I'm making, which is just... well, it's unfortunate, really. Honestly.

Yeah.
Look, honestly, depending on who’s actually saying it to you, that could be taken as a massive, incredibly blunt insult. It really just comes down to the person behind the words.
Look, when I use that word, I’m not talking about everyone. I'm strictly referring to those certain types of white-collar slackers and people who just drift through life without ever picking up a job.
I'll probably just end up mentioning that to one of the ladies on here—someone I know will actually take it as a joke and not get all weird about it.
I can't believe I'm even bringing this up again, but honestly, someone has to say it. I was sitting there yesterday, just nursing my coffee and scrolling through some news, and it hit me all over again how much things have shifted. It’s like we’re living in a completely different reality than we were even a few years ago. I remember back in the day, when you could talk about certain things without feeling like you were walking on eggshells, everything felt more... I don't know, grounded? Now, it feels like every single headline is designed to pull the rug out from under you. You look at what's happening in Washington, the way the debates in US Congress go, and it’s just constant chaos. It makes you want to just unplug and head out to a cabin in Montana for a month, doesn't it? Anyway, I saw what steelskipper5 was saying earlier, and while I get where they're coming from, I think they might be missing a huge part of the equation. It’s not just about one person or one specific policy; it’s the whole atmosphere. We’ve become so polarized that even having a casual chat at a local diner feels like navigating a minefield. I'm curious if anyone else feels this exhaustion, or am I just getting old and cynical? Because sometimes, it really does feel like we're all just spinning our wheels while the world moves on without us. kaže:
Look, since you’re running the show over in the Politics section, it might be worth sitting down with the US Constitution for a moment. You should probably take a closer look and realize that the US isn't some kind of Catholic State—it's a secular nation.

You’re seriously going to tell me that a message claiming the United States is a Catholic State wouldn't even crack 35 points on the trolling scale? Give me a break! I mean, come on, if someone dropped a line like that in an online debate today, they’d be hitting legendary status instantly. It’s such a blatant, over-the-top provocation—it’s practically art at that point. You have to love the sheer audacity of it. Honestly, if you aren't aiming for maximum chaos with stuff like that, what are you even doing? 😕
Where on earth is this all heading? Honestly, I find myself staring at the news lately just wondering where we’re actually going with this. It feels like every time I turn around, there's another twist in the plot that leaves me scratching my head. It’s one of those "where does it end?" kind of moments. 🤷
crimsonhound80 said:Come on, man—I always thought you were a relatively rational person. 😁>

Look, a rule is a rule, I get it, but there’s this massive logical loophole in these forum guidelines—much like some of the laws we see here in America.

Laws are usually drafted by master logicians, not just straight-A nerds who can't see the big picture.

So, what you're saying is, I can't write Joe BidenorIvo Sanders? No, wait, apparently I *can*—it's actually preferred to say things like, "that dimwitted, acne-ridden, drooling idiot Joe Biden" or "that degenerate thief, that absolute scumbag Ivo Sanders."

Let me repeat myself: if it’s supposedly against the rules to insult anyone's parents, then it seems incredibly strange to me that people are allowed to insult "my father," Luka Bebić.

Basically, I show up to this forum, read about how my own father is being trashed, and nobody gets penalized for it—yet I’m expected to just sit here quietly and endure these vile attacks on my old man.

What a wonderful rule!

p.s.
I would love to actually post on a forum where people attack a person's actions rather than their character, but I haven't exactly stumbled upon one of those yet.
That kind of standard isn't even in the rules, though it would certainly align with Jesus's teachings, which—in my humble opinion—should probably be held in higher regard in a Catholic State.

Every rule and every law is subject to change.

If something is wrong, you have to speak up; why stay silent about such fundamental issues?

I assume you unintentionally insulted the moderators and the person you're referencing (dee) in your opening post by labeling them leftists.
Go ahead, tell dee to his face that he's a leftist, if you've got the guts.

I honestly don't follow this part... 😢
I've grown somewhat accustomed to being insulted.

Good for you, I suppose—you're a good person.

I hear you, I really do.
But rules and social norms exist for a reason—that's just how things are set up.
Unfortunately, I don't have the power to just rewrite the rulebook on my own.
Why don't you try proposing a specific change to the rules and then sit back and watch how people react?

stasi wannabe crew

p.s. There was no need to get personal with the labels there; why not just lead by example and show us what decent, respectful communication actually looks like?
crimsonhound80 said:I was thinking the exact same thing.
You mean you're already starting off on the wrong foot—it’s basically decided from the get-go, isn't it? You’re just assuming—I mean, you’re really out here just making assumptions without any actual proof, aren't you? It’s funny, I guess, how people jump to conclusions like that—it's almost impressive, in a misguided sort of way—but honestly, it's just plain wrong. You can't just decide something is true because it fits your narrative, you know? It doesn't work that way. Not in reality, anyway. I mean, I guess if things were flipped around—if the roles were reversed—I definitely wouldn't be the one sitting here penning some sort of protest manifesto. Not me. Probably wouldn't even have the nerve, honestly. 🙂 !!!???

Assumptions... man, they are a dangerous thing—truly. I mean, people just jump to conclusions without a second thought, and then suddenly, you've got a whole mess on your hands because nobody bothered to actually check the facts first. It’s reckless, really. I guess we all do it sometimes, but when you start building an entire argument on nothing but guesswork? That’s where the trouble starts. It’s a slippery slope, maybe even a cliff, if you ask me.

Look, if you’re going to act like a moderator, I guess you really ought to actually know the rules of the Politics subforum—it's not exactly rocket science, is it? Honestly, it's just common sense, but apparently, that's asking too much these days.

One of the rules is... well, I suppose you could say it's basically this:

Look, I’m just going to lay this out clearly—Article 5, Section 1 of the Code of Conduct for the US Politics subforum applies to everyone, period. That means using derogatory nicknames for fellow forum members or any third parties is strictly off the table. From this point forward, we aren't going to tolerate anyone maliciously twisting names—you know exactly what I mean, like calling Donald Trump "Sranjo," or messing with Kradimir Čačić's name, or turning Ivo Sanders into "Smranader" and all that nonsense. It goes for user handles, too. If you try to twist someone's nickname just to be a jerk, it’s going to be treated exactly the same as direct insults. Consider this your fair warning.

I honestly don't think people grasp how much this whole situation—this entire mess with the current administration—is actually tearing at the fabric of our legal system. I mean, maybe I’m just being cynical, but when you look at how certain figures in Washington are playing by their own rules instead of following the US Constitution, it’s enough to make anyone lose their mind. It feels like we're drifting further away from actual stability every single day. And then you have people like Joe Biden just... well, let's just say they aren't exactly providing the steady hand we were promised, right? It’s all just one long, exhausting cycle of political theater that leaves the rest of us picking up the pieces. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though—given the state of things lately, surprise isn't really an option anymore. Everything feels so incredibly fractured, and frankly, it's infuriating. We need actual leadership, not just more of this endless, performative nonsense.

If you aren't allowed to write "Donald Trump" or "Kradimir Čačić" because of some arbitrary "rule"—well then, I guess you shouldn't be allowed to say that Dwyane Wade is a moron or that Čačić is an absolute idiot either, right? It just doesn't add up—honestly.

What exactly is it that you aren't grasping? I mean—really—is there some part of this that’s just flying right over your head? Because, honestly, I feel like I've laid everything out quite clearly—or at least, as clearly as one can given the circumstances—but apparently, there's still some massive gap in understanding here. I guess I should have been more explicit, maybe? But seriously, what part of this is actually confusing to you?

So, here’s how it goes.

Look, Joe Biden is practically family to me—I mean, we’re talking close ties here—so whenever someone goes out of their way to call him a monkey, by your twisted logic, I should be allowed to snap back and say, "Well, a monkey made you." It's just how the math works, I guess.

Look, I’m telling you—there’s no such thing as a verbal offense anymore—it just needs to be scrapped entirely. It’s all nonsense, really. Honestly, I’m just sitting here thinking about how much people around here love to take cheap shots at one another—it’s honestly exhausting. It feels like every time someone tries to make a point, instead of actually engaging with the argument, they just pivot straight to personal insults. It’s low-level, really. I mean, we’re all supposed to be having a discussion here, right? But no, it just turns into this constant stream of verbal abuse and petty jabs. I guess that's just how things have gone downhill lately—everyone’s so quick to lash out because they can't handle a real debate without getting defensive. It’s frankly pathetic, and it makes the whole experience feel incredibly toxic. I can't even begin to describe the absolute state of things on the forums lately—it’s just... well, it's a mess. Honestly, I feel like I’m losing my mind trying to keep up with the constant bickering and the sheer amount of nonsense being peddled by certain people. It’s exhausting, really. You go in expecting a decent discussion, maybe some actual insight into the current political climate or something useful regarding the economy, and instead? You get hit with a wall of mindless noise. It feels like everyone has an opinion on everything these days—which, okay, fine, that's the point of a forum—but there's a difference between having an opinion and just shouting into the void to hear your own echo. And don't even get me started on the specific cliques that form around certain topics. It’s like you can't have a nuanced conversation without someone jumping in to derail the whole thing with some half-baked theory or, worse, just pure vitriol. I guess I’m just getting old, or maybe I’ve just lost my patience for the performative outrage that seems to be the only currency left in online discourse. Everything is so polarized now—it’s like you’re either 100% with one side or you're the enemy. There's no middle ground, no room for a little bit of "maybe we're both wrong here," which—in my humble, perhaps overly cynical opinion—is where the most interesting stuff actually happens. Anyway, I'm probably just rambling. My bad. But seriously, does anyone else feel like they're walking through a minefield every time they log on? 🙄

Insulting other forum members is strictly prohibited.
Distorting the names of fellow users or third parties in an offensive way is also against the rules.

All you have to do is actually read the rules carefully.

It’s not like you need to use logic—though it seems not everyone is equipped for such heavy lifting.

p.s.
I’d honestly love to post on a forum where people attack ideas instead of attacking the individual, but I haven't stumbled upon one like that yet.
That kind of standard isn't explicitly written in the rules, though it would certainly align with Jesus's teachings, which I personally think should be held in higher regard in a Catholic State.

p.p.s.
I'm guessing you didn't mean to, but you probably insulted both the moderators and the person you're referencing (dee) in your opening post by labeling them all as leftists.
If you've got the guts, go ahead and call dee a leftist straight to their face.
Honestly, I've grown somewhat accustomed to the insults around here.
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Charles Jackson5 said:Look, maybe calling someone Burduš can be taken as a harmless joke, but they go after guys like Stjepan Mason with much harsher slurs all the time. And of course, nobody ever gets banned for that.
So, when someone actually catches a red card for being called "crooked-mouthed," people are naturally going to lose it at the injustice.

As far as I'm concerned, every single politician should be fair game for bashing—no holds barred, no hesitation. 😳

Honestly, if you ask me, they do plenty of dirty work on their own. They spend half their lives embarrassing themselves and tarnishing the very names their parents gave them.
We really don't need to turn this great Forum into a dumping ground for insults. This place works best when we actually use it to exchange ideas and have real discussions.
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Henry Cox78 said:So you're saying netiquette is basically just manners? Like, do people actually get punished for having bad manners in real life? No, they don't... 😁

Oh, they absolutely get penalized for lacking manners.
The real punishment is social isolation, and since we're all social creatures by nature, being cast out is a pretty heavy price to pay.

It even plays a huge role in the professional world—when you're looking for a job or trying to climb the corporate ladder at a place like Google or JPMorgan Chase, your soft skills and politeness matter just as much as your resume.
The funny thing is, people who lack those basic manners often mistake being passed over for a promotion as some kind of conspiracy, rather than realizing they just need to work on themselves.
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Adam Collins4 said:Bringing a debate down to personal attacks is an ad hominem fallacy, which—as anyone who’s read a book on logic or philosophy knows—is a total dealbreaker in any serious discussion...

Trolling is a completely different beast...

As is cherry-picking someone’s words out of context or responding to only one tiny fragment of a post...

Honestly, I shorten my quotes almost every single time.
You could have done the exact same thing just now; you completely ignored the part where I was actually addressing Guggenheim.
Not every single question deserves a response, you know.

Since you're so eager to jump in, which specific question were you even trying to answer? Were you just looking to feed into 7nationarmy's provocations?
Look, you don't *have* to reply, but next time, maybe take a deep breath before you start engaging with the trolls and the constant baiting.
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silentridge3 said:If you’d taken even a third of the energy you spent on this massive explanation and actually put it into your opening post, maybe there would still be a thread to talk about.
I mean, I see you've gathered some arguments and tried to build some connections here, so maybe give it another shot with a fresh intro.


Alright, fine, here goes nothing:

So, what you're trying to get at is that my original post—you know, the very first one, before the mods nuked the whole thread instantly...

...was so incredibly bad that the moderators had to delete the topic immediately? 😕

It’s much easier to just delete a discussion before the replies start rolling in.
You hit the nail on the head there.

By the way, make sure you double-check your links before hitting publish; I had to spend a good chunk of time fixing mine just now.
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silentridge3 said:I honestly just assumed this was common knowledge by now, but I suppose if we really need to lay out the evidence and prove it, here it is:

I was just scrolling through some news updates from the University of America today—not that anyone really follows those academic bulletins unless they’re looking for a reason to feel smarter than their neighbors—and I stumbled upon this bit about recent breakthroughs and awards. It’s one of those things where you realize how much goes on behind the scenes in research labs that most people couldn't care less about, I guess. There’s a lot of talk about various honors being handed out and new initiatives being launched, which, honestly, feels like a constant cycle of "look how important we are" in the scientific community, though I suppose someone has to do the work. It’s all very official and heavy on the institutional jargon, as usual, making everything sound much more monumental than it might actually be when you strip away the prestige. Maybe it's just me, but sometimes the sheer volume of these announcements makes it hard to tell what's actually changing the world and what's just a fancy way to secure more funding for the next decade.I saw this news floating around earlier, and I guess I’m just sitting here wondering how we even got to this point, though maybe that's a bit dramatic, isn't it? It feels like every time you turn around, there's some new development or some shift in the landscape that makes you question if anyone actually has a handle on things, but then again, maybe everything is proceeding exactly as intended, which is a thought that honestly leaves me feeling a little weary. I don't know, it just seems like one of those situations where you have to look at the whole picture, even if the picture itself is kind of blurry and hard to make sense of sometimes. Anyway, I suppose it's worth noting, even if it doesn't change much in the grand scheme of things.

So, I was just looking over this whole "for Women in Science" thing, and honestly, it’s one of those things that makes you wonder about the way everything works these days. It’s an application process, a call for entries, I suppose, though I can’t quite decide if it’s meant to be a genuine push for progress or just another bureaucratic hoop to jump through in the grand scheme of things. You see these programs pop up, promising to bridge gaps and foster talent, and part of me wants to believe the optimism behind them, really I do, but then there's that other side of my brain—the more cynical side, I guess—that wonders if it actually changes the fundamental landscape or if it's just a nice gesture on paper. It’s all very complicated, isn't it? Maybe it's exactly what's needed, or maybe it's just another layer of institutional noise, but regardless, it's there, sitting on the table, waiting for someone to take notice.

Applications have finally opened up for the new cycle, I guess, though I can't say if anyone's actually ready for the headache that comes with them. It feels like every year we're right back at this starting line, staring down those endless forms and wondering if any of the effort will actually lead anywhere meaningful. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but the window is officially open now.I was thinking about that whole National Science Foundation Fellowship for Women in Science thing lately, and I guess it’s just one of those programs that stays on my mind, maybe because it feels like such a massive undertaking. It's this big national push to get more women into research and higher education, which is obviously necessary, I suppose, though you have to wonder how much of it actually reaches the people who need it most versus getting caught up in all the bureaucratic red tape that usually follows these kinds of large-scale initiatives. It’s a huge effort by the government to bridge that gap in STEM, but then again, you start looking at the sheer scale of it and you can't help but feel a bit skeptical about whether a single fellowship program can truly shift the needle in such a massive, complicated field. Still, it's an interesting concept, I guess, if you look past the paperwork. I guess it depends on where exactly they are in that final, agonizing stretch of their PhD journey, but if we're talking about women in science who are basically staring down the finish line of their dissertation, there are actually quite a few paths to explore. Maybe they could look into a National Science Foundation Fellowship if they want to bridge that gap between finishing up and starting something new, though I suppose those can be pretty competitive depending on the field. There might also be specific opportunities through organizations like the National Endowment for the Arts if their research leans more toward the humanities or certain niche scientific disciplines, which I know can sometimes feel like an uphill battle. It really just comes down to whether they're looking for immediate funding, a post-doc position, or maybe just some sort of prestige to bolster a CV before hitting the job market. I mean, it’s a lot to navigate when you're already exhausted from years of research, isn't it? When you look at the whole landscape of the natural sciences—and I really mean the whole broad spectrum, including all those messy, overlapping interdisciplinary fields that don't quite fit into a neat little box—it’s just... well, it's a lot to wrap your head around, I guess.So, I guess we’re looking at the fellowships for the fourth year in a row now, which feels like a lifetime when you really stop to think about how fast everything just sort of drifts by, doesn't it? It’s been four years of this, I suppose, and maybe that means something, or maybe it just means things are staying exactly as they are, which is a bit of a cynical thought to have on a Tuesday, but here we are. So, I guess it’s happening again—L'Oréal and the United States National Commission for UNESCO are teaming up with the National Endowment for the Arts to hand out some awards, which feels like just another thing on the endless pile of bureaucratic ceremonies we have to navigate. It's one of those things where you wonder if anyone actually cares about the substance behind the fanfare, but there it is, another official collaboration between big corporate players and our national cultural institutions. It’s all about trying to get people actually interested in science, I guess, though whether that actually works remains to be seen. If you're thinking about getting involved, the deadline to get those applications in is October 30th.

So, I was reading about these fellowships they're handing out—they're worth about four thousand bucks each, I think—specifically for women currently grinding through their PhD programs. The whole idea, or at least the official pitch, is to boost the profile of science and really push for more female advancement in research, mostly because all those studies seem to suggest that women are still way less represented in the scientific community compared to men. It’s a massive gap, I guess, though whether a few grand here and there actually moves the needle on such a huge systemic issue is something I can't quite wrap my head around, but that's the goal, anyway.

So, I guess it looks like they’re going to be handing out four fellowships this year, and... well, who knows where that's actually headed. So, I heard that the folks deciding on those new fellowships are putting together this selection committee, and honestly, it’s quite the roster of big names. It’s going to be headed up by John Doe, along with Jane Doe and John Smith, plus a whole lineup of heavy hitters like professors Jane Smith, Jane Doe, John Doe, John Doe, John Doe, and Jane Doe. It feels like they’re pulling together every major academic authority in the country to make these calls, which I suppose makes sense if you want total prestige, though I guess we'll just have to see how much of an impact this group actually has on the process.

So, I was reading up on this whole thing, and it turns out the National Science Foundation Fellowship is actually tied into this massive global initiative called "for Women in Science." It’s been around since 1998, which is forever, really, and it was basically launched through this partnership between L'Oréal and UNESCO as the very first international award specifically aimed at women in the sciences. I guess it’s pretty significant, considering how much they've expanded it over the years—they’ve ended up rolling out three distinct programs now, ranging from the big-deal Nobel Prize level recognition all the way down to the International and National Fellowship programs. It's quite a sprawling setup when you think about it.


It seems pretty obvious that the Department of Science and Technology is taking a stand here—they aren't just watching from the sidelines, they’re actively leaning into this and giving it their blessing. I mean, the Department clearly knows that women in those specific scientific fields in America aren't represented nearly enough as it is. It feels like any kind of segregationist move, if you want to call it that, really ought to be backed up by some rock-solid arguments and rooted in the actual, undeniable data regarding how underrepresented certain groups truly are in the current landscape. I guess it just doesn't make much sense otherwise.

I mean, if you think about it, this whole idea of a "Nobel Prize for blondes and blue-eyed women in science" would basically just be institutionalized segregation, wouldn't it? It’s a bit much, I guess. And honestly, that’s exactly the kind of messy, controversial topic that people on those "policy2" forums love to chew on—you know, right up there with debating the old-school clashes between the fascists and the partisans back in the day. It’s all just more division, really.

I guess this might actually be the most critical point of the whole discussion, especially since you’re claiming there’s "no real need" for a topic like this. If we’re looking at the big picture, moderator voluntarism can—perhaps even unintentionally, though it's hard to say for sure—completely warp and reshape the entire landscape of an online community. I mean, when you think about it, a moderator's actual job should really just be keeping things civil, making sure people aren't being abusive, and ensuring that specific threads don't drift so far off-track that they totally miss the point of the subforum they're sitting in. It’s a fine line, I suppose, between maintaining order and accidentally steering the direction of the conversation itself.

If all the basic rules are checked off, then I suppose it’s really up to the rest of us on here to decide whether a thread actually matters or if it's just noise. If someone goes through the trouble of starting a discussion, they clearly feel there's something worth saying, right? Personally, I look at about 90% of these newly created topics and think, "Really? We need this?" but I guess that’s just my cynical take on things. At the end of the day, the whole point of a forum being what it is—this kind of open space—is precisely that anyone can jump in and start a conversation about whatever they find meaningful, even if most of it ends up being pretty pointless.

Anyway, I really think this whole discussion about how the Department of Science and Technology is being blatantly sexist is actually pretty crucial—probably way more important than half those other topics that somehow managed to get deleted for no reason, I guess.

But if you look at my fourth point, it actually says:
Sam Green73 said:Check this out:
The Department of Science and Technology openly discriminates based on gender says:
A company that (as far as I know) makes products specifically for women is handing out an award for "Women in Science." At the end of the day, a private corporation has every right to give awards to whomever they want, provided they're willing to deal with any potential backlash themselves.

The thing is, this award goes to women in very specific niches within the natural sciences—fields where women aren't even underrepresented (in fact, there are often more of them than men).

I just don't get what the Department of Science and Technology is doing being so actively involved in this gender-segregated promotional stunt by a single company. I’d love to hear the moral justification for why the Department is getting mixed up in this.

So, what's next? Is the Department going to help Anheuser-Busch hand out a "Men in Science Award" soon?

And why wouldn't the Department help out with an award for "Blondes and Blue-eyed People in Science"? What's the difference?

1. Wait, what exactly are we talking about here? Is there actually a connection?
2. How can you be so sure about the Department's official stance?
3. Who's saying the Department shouldn't help with a "Blondes and Blue-eyed People in Science" award?
4. Look, I didn't delete the thread, but I personally don't see the point in starting a discussion framed like that, even if we're dancing around politics.

Honestly, if you had spent just a third of the energy you used on this explanation on your initial post, the thread would still be standing.
I can see you've gathered your arguments and connections, though—maybe try again with a fresh opening message.


Adam Collins4 said:Adam Collins4 says:
And others have already been sounding the alarm on that...


Sam Green73:

"So this is your idea of being constructive?

Others have already warned you about how you carry yourself.
It would be a lot easier for me to hold that other guy accountable if his approach was actually the only one that wasn't messy."

You’re lecturing me on being "constructive," yet you cherry-pick one single sentence from my entire post just because it rubbed you the wrong way—a sentence you can't even properly wrap your head around?

That’s your version of being constructive? Honestly, have some shame...

As for that one person being offensive—you've had more than two days to report them, but you haven't... so, once again, just another pathetic attempt on your part to stall...

Those extra sentences are a textbook example of turning a discussion into a personal attack (basically trolling).
Avoid doing that, and I'll have no problem penalizing the other person if they start provoking you.
When two people start bickering like this, they both end up getting a cooling-off period.
It takes two to tango.

The comment about "two days ago" is particularly hilarious to me.
Do you really think I live on this forum?

p.s. It’s honestly great seeing how folks react when they get hit with the exact same linguistic patterns they use themselves.
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silentridge3 said:Oh, and before I completely forget—I’m still actually wondering why on earth they deleted that thread about how the Department of Science and Technology is openly discriminating based on gender. I mean, I honestly feel like that discussion was pretty vital and, you know, genuinely interesting to follow, and it wasn't like anyone was being offended or anything...

Check this out:
The Department of Science and Technology openly discriminates based on gender says:
A company that (as far as I know) makes products specifically for women is handing out an award for "Women in Science." At the end of the day, a private corporation has every right to give awards to whomever they want, provided they're willing to deal with any potential backlash themselves.

The thing is, this award goes to women in very specific niches within the natural sciences—fields where women aren't even underrepresented (in fact, there are often more of them than men).

I just don't get what the Department of Science and Technology is doing being so actively involved in this gender-segregated promotional stunt by a single company. I’d love to hear the moral justification for why the Department is getting mixed up in this.

So, what's next? Is the Department going to help Anheuser-Busch hand out a "Men in Science Award" soon?

And why wouldn't the Department help out with an award for "Blondes and Blue-eyed People in Science"? What's the difference?

1. Wait, what exactly are we talking about here? Is there actually a connection?
2. How can you be so sure about the Department's official stance?
3. Who's saying the Department shouldn't help with a "Blondes and Blue-eyed People in Science" award?
4. Look, I didn't delete the thread, but I personally don't see the point in starting a discussion framed like that, even if we're dancing around politics.
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silentridge3 said:Look, all this nonsense is one thing, but I guess you’d think that before someone goes around handing out bans like they're candy, the moderators might actually take a second to focus and get their act together, right? Maybe it's just me, but it feels like things are a bit scattered lately.

I mean, if you look at something like this...

I was just sitting here thinking about how much everything seems to be shifting lately, and I can’t help but feel a bit weary about the whole state of things, I guess. It feels like we’re constantly being told that progress is happening, that these big institutions—you know, the ones that are supposed to actually hold society together—are making strides, but then you look closer and it’s all just a bit of a facade, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being cynical, but there's this sense that the structures meant to support brilliance or nurture talent are more interested in the optics than the actual substance. Take the way we talk about recognition, for instance. We celebrate these massive achievements, these people winning the Nobel Prize, and we act like that's the pinnacle of human endeavor, which, sure, maybe it is, but what about the quiet work? What about the people who don't fit into those narrow, prestigious boxes? I mean, when you look at how organizations like the National Science Foundation Fellowship operate, or how the National Endowment for the Arts tries to steer the cultural needle, it often feels like they're just playing a game of musical chairs with prestige rather than actually fostering anything raw or real. And don't even get me started on the corporate side of things. You see brands like L'Oréal trying to position themselves as leaders in social progress or inclusivity, and while that might look great in a glossy ad campaign, I find myself wondering if it's anything more than just clever marketing to keep the shareholders happy. It's all very polished, very manicured, and perhaps a little hollow if you stare at it for too long. I saw Sam Green73 mentioning something similar the other day, and honestly, I think they hit the nail on the head regarding how much of our "progress" is just rebranding old habits. Even when you look at international bodies like UNESCO, there’s this layer of bureaucracy that seems designed to insulate them from any actual change. It’s almost as if the goal isn't to move forward, but to ensure that the movement looks sufficiently dignified while staying exactly where it is. I don't know, maybe I'm just tired of seeing the same patterns repeat under different names. It feels like we're all just circling the same drain, pretending the water isn't getting deeper.

It really feels like the moderator didn't just skim over the entire post that led to this guy getting banned, but actually failed to read any of the preceding comments in the thread at all—you know, the stuff everyone else was saying right before things went south. I mean, it’s almost impressive, in a deeply frustrating sort of way, how one can completely miss the context provided by the other participants in the same discussion. It makes you wonder if they're even looking at the full picture, or if they're just jumping in mid-sentence to hand out punishments without a second thought. Maybe they're just busy, or maybe I'm being too cynical, but it certainly leaves a bad taste in my mouth when someone gets sidelined because the person in charge wasn't paying attention to the actual flow of the conversation.

I mean, I guess you could argue that giving certain groups political freedoms is just an unnecessary burden on them, in a way—it’s like, maybe some people aren't actually built to handle the weight of all those choices without it just becoming this massive, exhausting pressure, though I don't know, it's a heavy thought to sit with.
I mean, if you really sit back and look at the global landscape, I guess you have to admit there hasn't been a single country with a majority Black population that has managed to achieve any semblance of lasting political stability, if that makes sense. It’s just one of those things where you look at the data and it seems like a recurring pattern, though maybe I'm being too cynical, but it feels like an inescapable reality when you observe how these nations struggle to find their footing.
I mean, I guess you could argue that Haiti is going to stay stuck in this cycle of extreme poverty until at least a decent portion of the population becomes literate and actually gains some real-world life experience, though I don't know, maybe that’s being too cynical, but it feels like there's just no way around it if people aren't equipped to navigate how the world actually works.
Sometimes you just sit back and find yourself spiraling into these heavy, cynical questions about whether certain groups can actually pull off the whole functional statehood thing, I guess. It’s one of those dark, wandering thoughts that hits you when you're looking at the chaos in places like Haiti, where everything seems to just... stall, and you start wondering if some populations are even capable of maintaining a stable, working government. Maybe it's just me being overly pessimistic, but I can't help but wonder about the fundamental capacity for building a cohesive society under those circumstances.
I mean, you look back at South Africa before the whole apartheid mess collapsed, and man, it really was such a prosperous, thriving nation, wasn't it? And then you see what it’s become today... I don't know, it's just hard to wrap my head around how things shifted so drastically. It's one of those things that makes you sit back and wonder where it all went sideways, I guess.

Well, that looks like a textbook example of an appeal being handled perfectly.
The guy complained about his penalty, the mod looked into it, saw the mistake, and fixed it.
Problem solved.

So, what exactly are you complaining about now?
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silentridge3 said:It’s not really that I’m complaining about that, I guess; it’s more that I’m bothered by the fact that these warnings aren't being handed out in other—well, much more important—areas, like when people are being toxic, spreading hate, or just completely derailing threads.

BTW (not that it matters all that much, I suppose):

...if you look at other threads, posts consisting of nothing but smileys (usually just reacting to a quote) are actually way more common, even among the moderators themselves...

Regarding those smileys, I mean, if that's the rule, then fine, let them be penalized. But maybe there's some kind of moderator "discretionary judgment" involved here? For instance, you've got people who would love to just flood a whole thread with nothing but emojis, and then you have people like me, who might write these incredibly long, winding, exhaustive posts in a discussion, and then, in one single post out of a thousand, I'll just drop a smiley because it feels like the simplest, most effective way to communicate. If I recall correctly, I once just put a couple of those "bowing" emojis on someone's post because I totally agreed with them. I just didn't have anything else to add at that moment. I could have added a single word alongside the emoji to avoid getting flagged—something like "Great!" or "Agreed"—but the sentiment remains exactly the same...

But again, I'm just rambling; it's probably all less important than it seems. If that's how the rules work, then sure, penalize everyone, myself included.

It happens all the time.
People don't usually come out here complaining about their own standing; instead, they whine because someone else didn't get the recognition they deserved.
It gets especially ridiculous when they're pointing out a post that isn't even part of the current thread, or sometimes even on a completely different subforum!

Look, some garbage is always going to slip past the moderators.
Even the local police department—which you guys fund through your taxes—can't catch every single thief, rapist, or even the random vandal smashing streetlights in the middle of the night.
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granitemarlin77 said:nobody even deserves a response

You're lying.
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granitemarlin77 said:Look, seriously, stop messing with me. I'm not stupid enough to miss what you're doing by jumping back to a thread from seven days ago—a thread that’s currently cluttered with a bunch of off-topic posts because you decided to step in and "clean things up" since you didn't have enough time to do it right. Come on, let's quit the nonsense.

Same topic, different complaint:
Basta said:I know there's probably no point in appealing this, but let's give it a shot anyway... 🙂

The author actually started this thread six (6) days ago:

My response:
Sam Green73 said:1. That was when I started reading through that thread.
2. I read threads starting from the very first post, and that specific post got flagged because I realized you leave the exact same kind of commentary on all sorts of different threads.
I haven't checked the others yet because they're buried behind yours and haven't made it to the top of my list.
The strike stays, but you could have taken a quick look at the DNC guidelines and noticed there's a dedicated section for appealing strikes.

Oh, right.
I'm also following the other side of that debate; plenty of people are complaining, but I've got other discussions that are higher priority for me right now.
Maybe you'll be more constructive once you get to that part of the conversation later.

Your strike can be changed to an off-topic warning.
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Roger Reed49 said:straight from the mouth of the same damn moderator

Who on earth told you that?
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Honestly, trolling is just dragging some totally random topic like Times Square into a conversation about unemployment.
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I honestly don't quite get what you're complaining about here.
But, I definitely see some hate speech being thrown at people from the Midwest.
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silentridge3 said:Hey Rezonatore, since you're hanging around here...:

I was just wondering why this specific thread...

...is merely locked down, whereas my own post about the actual risks of financial decentralization—which I had barely finished typing the intro for before it vanished ten minutes later—was wiped clean from existence under the "Politics" category?

Wait, what thread?
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Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I noticed some of the quoted posts were deleted after the fact... what gives? A post gets flagged six days ago, stays up for a bit, and then just vanishes into thin air?

Look, I flagged it myself, and honestly, my moderation session got cut short mid-stream.
I actually had the thread open in a browser running inside a virtual machine, which ended up being shut down from 4:40 PM yesterday until 9:20 AM this morning.
If you really think I'm doing such a lousy job, why don't you go moderate the Politics sub instead of just spamming it?